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Am I in the wrong forum? I would suppose that many here are ardent breeders of Leos, but I have seen so many statements concerning them that I have to ask, Is there a manual that identifies all these types and morphs of Geckos?. Also, I often see thngs like "Leopard Gecko 2.8, or 2.1, or whatever. Nice, I am happy for you, What do you have? I am supposing that is also explained somewhere. Same goes for calling some of them "Hypo Tangerine, (Orange in color?) and I am guessing that the statement of Carrot on the tail is both a good thing and a description of an orange touch of color on the tail.

I am not slamming anyone, hehe, I am just trying to follow the convos and losing ground at a miserable rate. Thank you

Bob

Hey Bob,

You're in the right place, most of the time. I'll try to answer your questions in the order you asked them below.

>>Am I in the wrong forum?

No. Sometimes we get carried away with dumb stuff, but this is in fact probably the best source of leopard gecko info on the whole Internet.

>>I would suppose that many here are ardent breeders of Leos,

I've bred a few in my time and currently have something in the neighborhood of 50-ish. There are people just starting out with one gecko and others here who probably have 100 or more, possibly.

>>but I have seen so many statements concerning them that I have to ask, Is there a manual that identifies all these types and morphs of Geckos?.

The best single-source document you can buy is the Leopard Gecko Manual by de Vosjoli, et al. But, never settle for just one source, so check out some of the online sites, such as-

Dream Gecko Leo Morphs
Geckos Supreme - The melanistic is an African Fattail gekco, I'm pretty sure.
Article in Reptile Rooms

There used to be some great resources for this question, but they're gone now. If you have some specific questions after seeing those, just ask.

>>Also, I often see thngs like "Leopard Gecko 2.8, or 2.1, or whatever. Nice, I am happy for you, What do you have?

The numbers you see are male.female.unsexed. The unsexed hatchlings are sometimes omitted from the 'tally'. So, 2.8 would be 2 males and 8 females.

>>Same goes for calling some of them "Hypo Tangerine, (Orange in color?) and I am guessing that the statement of Carrot on the tail is both a good thing and a description of an orange touch of color on the tail.

Yes. Hypo is short for Hypomelanistic, or less melanin, which would mean less black spots on the gecko(mostly lacking on the back). I'm a firm believer that a 'Hypo' gecko needs to have 10 or less spots on its back. Super Hypo would have zero spots on its back, as in this picture.

Welcome to the forum. Stick around a while; most people here are really cool and willing and able to help. Searching the archives will usually give you answers quick, though. The forum has been online since around 1999/2000, so there are literally years of answers in KS's servers.

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Hi Rob, Gotta question. If hypo means less than 10 spots on its back does it still count if the gecko has a spotted head? Dot was labelled *hypo* and she only has maybe two spots on her back however, she does have a fully spotted head and spots on her tail beyond the orange part (theres only two spots that kinda join together on the orange). She looks like she's wearing a mask with the way her head is hehehe.

Thanks for your input

Red
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>>Yes. Hypo is short for Hypomelanistic, or less melanin, which would mean less black spots on the gecko(mostly lacking on the back). I'm a firm believer that a 'Hypo' gecko needs to have 10 or less spots on its back. Super Hypo would have zero spots on its back, as in this picture.
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Hey Red,

First off, that is my definition; I believe many people share my views on this. It's just an attempt to create some sort of standard, because if we can't have a well-known standard, people who are just starting out won't really understand what they're paying for and would likely get ripped off. Any more than 10 spots, I'd call reduced pattern to normal, depending on how many. It's funny to look in the classifieds here and see all the hypos or super hypos that pop up as 1-2 months olds and have 20 spots on their backs.

These terms are usually used in reference to the back, between the front and back legs, not including head or tails. We call geckos without head spotting baldies, and I don't know if anyone has created an unspotted tail yet.

I'd call Dot a hypo for sure. Can't wait to see the updated pics, she looks real nice. She looks pretty young; her spots may still fade away. Some of mine take a few months to lose all spotting.

Have a great holiday!
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Rob Jenkins
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Heres an old pic of her (top). She's changed alot since then, become alot more orange coloured with bright orange on her tail.

I'll get new pics up after the holidays

Red

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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

the number system like 1.1.1 is male/female/unknown sex.

carrot tail is a gecko that has a very dark or light color of orange around the base of the tail,sometimes covering more than 50% of the tail.
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1.3 Leopard Gecko's
1.0 mali uromastyx
0.0.3 tokay's(adults unsexed)