Reptile & Amphibian Forums

I have asked a few people about hypo bloods, now I will ask the Forum....Are there any hypo bloods out there and if so has the trait been proven out? I resently aquired what looks to be a Sumatran ( adult male)that has hypo characteristics...I hope to show a pic..just waiting for it to shed.. also I have some fully striped bloods..would love to see some pics of stripped bloods in peoples collections...to all a blessed New Year....

Ball,

Theres a post a few posts down about a black blood that was reffered to as hypo. The owner said it is darkening with age as most bloods and s/t's do. I haven't heard of anyone breeding a "hypo" to "hypo" blood before, so I can't comment on the genetics. Personally I think that the "hypo" bloods are just lightly colored animals. So naturally breeding two together would probably cause mostly lightly colored babies. Labeling them as hypo's should be saved until it is proven genetic or at least sellers who have not proven it genetic should use some quotations or something IMO. As for stripes there was a post about mid November labeled "best blood in your collection" I belive that has some really nice super stripe Borneo's from VPI hatching. VPI also has some really nice pictures of these on their website. I would love to see some pictures of you animals. Are you producing any this year?
-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

Jordan,
I will post pics as soon as I am able to...I actually cant wait to post and I am trying to get my nikon to transfer...I agree that what most people call hypos are really light colored bloods..most are young ones that usually darken with age...as I said this is an adult male that is really something to see...I will try and send you pics of some of the bloods and maybe you can post them for me...the male hypo pic is in shed...I also have a really dark blood that has a black head...it is either ugly or really cool..depending on your individual outlook...

Ball,

Feel free to send me pics and I'll try to post them. I'm at home on my rents dial up for the next few weeks and working alot, so it might take me a day or two. Sumatran short tails with black heads are usually considered better looking, but it depends on the person. Personally I like them, but some prefer silver or orange heads. There is actually a phase of albino bloods that just looks like a really pale snake (check out VPI), as well as a yellow phase, and red. Email at jordanm@arches.uga.edu and i'll try to see if i can get your pics up in the next few days.
-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

Well, if you consider peach & light cream-yellow coloration with the only black occuring on the ventrolateral & caudal scales, then yes.

Updated pics soon...

K
-----
"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

I totally agree, just haven't really seen animals with this coloration. However, you'r a Much more experienced herper than I. :bows to Kara: I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy!
-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

Believe you me...I learn new things on a daily basis...working with snakes is a great way to stay humble - they always have a way of showing you how much you don't know!

K
-----
"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

Hey,
I agree with most of what has been said regarding Hypo bloods and others, etc. There are those individual animals that crop or show up from time to time, with no real genetic reference (i.e., Ghost, Ivory etc.) that are just that, an animal with reduced black. Whether this is inheritable or not, will have to be proven out using like animals with similar genetic traits, of either recessive or co-dominant type. I personally don't know a lot of them out there, but I was offered one a few months ago, and passed on it, as I really like the saturated reds with dark heads when available.

- Angel
-----
Sometimes on your way to your dream, you get lost and find a better way!

I also like the deep reds..heck, there arent many bloods that I dont like...I have some with salmon sides and yellow stripes and some with tangerine color and yellow full stripes and some with yellow sides and full brown stripe sand some with deep red sides and dark brown full stripes.....the hypo looking one is peachish with yellow hues...really weird...then a dark one with a black head and also a black blood with an orange head...they are all beautiful to me..I hope to show pic of them all..the blood fever is on ..never thought I would get the fever again for any snake.....
Michael

Micheal,

I have blood fever too...but your animals are amazing! You said you wanted to post pics of them all so I'll go ahead and just make a new post with each of the pics you sent me (aside from the GTP)
-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

This is Micheal's animal that he was talking about. He said the pic was in shed so it is hard to make an exact determination. By the pic tho, and going with K's definition I think it is fair to refer to this as a hypo. The black at the tip of the tail makes it questionable. This actually looks alot like a light phase albino to me. My completely ignorant assumption says maybee a carrier of the albino gene?

BTW Ill go ahead and post the rest of your animals on a seperate post for you.

-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

My earlier post was not intended to set a definition for hypomelanistic bloods. I think that if there's anyone that could answer that question, it would be Tracy. My point was that I am working with some animals that I feel may be hypomelanistic, but I'm not going to put a label on them until I breed them out & gain a better understanding of what I'm looking at.

For example, here's a somewhat outdated pic of some related animals I acquired earlier in the year. These two are siblings - one is obviously much lighter than the other. The light one continues to turn into a peach & light yellow colored animal with minimal dark pigmentation. I honestly have no idea what's going on with the snake, but I have two of her brothers that are the exact same color. Then there's the odd dark animal - who knows? Time will tell.

Just my $.02...

K
-----
"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

Kara,
I know, I was just trying to refer to what you had said earlier. Guess I should have chosen my words more wisely. Usually I just get on the forums and bs around (you of all people should know this by now), and forget about being specific and stuff like that... DOH!
-----
"It's my snake, I trained it, so I'm going to eat it!" - Mad Max, The Road Warrior

I think there is a lot we have to learn about color mutations in blood pythons, and even regarding the variability in what still makes for a "normal" blood. Since there's so much left to discover, I just don't want to put too fine a point on any definition of a morph, especially in my limited experience at this time.

KLG
-----
"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

K,
I understand that until The genetics of this blood are proven out that it is just another light colored blood....I really dont know what I have here as far as it being a true hypo..it looks as close as any blood I have seen to being hypo, but I am not saying that it actually is. That is why I posted it, so I could get those that would have a more knowledgable opinion be able to voice it. I am open to learning and even being corrected..pride will kill a man..

Michael,

Don't worry...my previous post wasn't in regards to your snake specifically...I was actually speaking more of the peach-colored animals I'm working with at this time. I really hope that light animal of yours turns out to be something, since it's such a gorgeous animal.

I guess my whole point is that I haven't messed around with blood python varations enough to say "this is a morph" or "this is just a different shade of normal," so I'm not about to put a hard definition on anything at this point.

That's definitely one thing the bloods have going for them - I'm willing to bet there's so much out there we have yet to discover with these awesome snakes.

K
-----
"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens