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This year's SHCT x HT crosses

Rob Jenkins Dec 27, 2003 10:52 PM

Here's a picture I took tonight of a gecko from my first and last clutch and one in between. These are from a SHCTB mom and Hypo Tangerine dad. They're so beautiful. The one from August didn't start out looking like anything too special, but I believe she's actually better looking than the September one, due to her almost greenish background with tangerine sections. I wonder what October baby will turn out like.... The orange comes in as they get older/bigger.

September girl is half naked in this picture
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davecable Dec 27, 2003 10:58 PM

It sure is interesting to see how their colors and spots develop with age. It’s really a joy to watch these little buggers grow up. Keep up the good work Rob!

Rob Jenkins Dec 27, 2003 11:09 PM

You're absolutely right; it's amazing how they change. It's the dominant Hypo gene in the CTs that do it. When you think about it, all leos lose some black as they grow up, but these buggers take it to the extreme. Here's a pic of the August baby above as a baby herself. Much like the October baby looks now, huh?

I wish I could take credit for the good work, but they did it all; I just take care of them and play 'matchmaker' Thanks for the kind words.
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roi3in Dec 27, 2003 11:24 PM

it's interesting how they develope... at time they look kinda odd thoughout the teenage stage and then blossome into these gorgeous animsls... at least that has been my experience.....
your animals as always rob are gorgeous!! i love seeing your pics
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Rob Jenkins Dec 28, 2003 02:28 PM

Thanks, Robin. I know what you mean; it's a joy just looking in on them every day or so to see how they're changing. It used to be fun watching them grow before all these morphs, but the CTs and Tangerines have really made it exciting. I can't wait to see the blue ones Tremper is supposed to have.

I've got one with a cool olive coloring I'll post a pic of later.
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SFgeckos Dec 28, 2003 01:57 AM

most of my hypo tang x super hypo ct cross offspring didn't come out too special, ranging from high yellows to tangerines, this one is one of my favorites, pretty nice body coloration and good amount of orange on the tail. good luck in 04, take care
-SFgeckos

Rob Jenkins Dec 28, 2003 02:25 PM

She's awesome. None of mine kept mom's spotless head. Did that one come from both baldy parents? If not, do you have any idea how it's inherited?

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SFgeckos Dec 28, 2003 04:30 PM

honestly i dont really know how the 'baldy' gene works for sure..but i can only make an educated guess from MY OWN experiences (others might have different results).

anyways, i found that using a baldy male is probably the most efficient way of producing a number of baldy offspring. for that particular pictured cross animal, the parents were male- hine line baldy super hypo ct 40%, female- independent super hypo tangerine line, some orange on tail but not much.

obviously if u breed a baldy male to baldy breeder females that increases the likely hood that more offspring are baldies, but it's still not 100%. i produced some where around 25-30 baldys this year, the majority of them coming from baldy x baldy. but even doing a baldy male x non baldy females will produce a varying percentage of baldies.

the reason i stated that using a baldy male is the most efficient way is because obviously one male can breed to several/many females, thus increasing the chances that his "baldy allele" (if it is in fact carried by an allele) will be inherited in the offspring. using a baldy female and breeding her to a non baldy male, u may get the same percentage of baldy offspring but only from her eggs from that breeding (6-8 clutches average). one baldy male can easily breed 10 females and u get (say 6-8 clutches x 10 females) the same percentage of baldies just with more eggs..so u get more baldies haha..didnt realize this post was so long! sorry for talking too much, anyways i hope that kinda helps?

ps- rob, if you're still looking to add some nice baldy super hypo females to your colony u can email me. i got about 5 or 6 subadult (45+ grams) nice females available that were born late this year. some are tang x hypo crosses, others are hypo x hypo. i haven't had time to post them on ks but im sure u might like a few of them.

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-SFgeckos

RandyS Dec 28, 2003 07:10 AM

Very nice color on them,Good job.
I noticed with my hypo's the tang color really starts come in around 2 months or more. Good luck in 04.
RandyS
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Rob Jenkins Dec 28, 2003 02:30 PM

Randy,
Yep, that's what I noticed as well. I had a couple that started out pretty orange w/hardly any dark coloration, but most of them start out like this October baby and the tang starts at around 2 months like you said.

I don't know how many I'll be breeding this year. I'm probably going to be in a few schools that'll keep me too busy to breed them, but there's always 05 or 06

Good luck to you, too.
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