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I want a bird... but not if it stresses my chames... (more)

gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 09:18 AM

hi guys. Merry xmas and new year, btw.

I want to buy a small bird, most likely a cockatiel or something similar. Small, quiet and freindly (you know, cause im not getting nothing "friendly" out of my veilds lol)

He would be a different room, and MAYBE flying in front of my veild cages in the rare occasion, but rare.

What do you guys think? Should I just forget it? Because I will if its a problem.

chers
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Gabriel - Montreal
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Replies (18)

gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 09:20 AM

np
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Gabriel - Montreal
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JDANY Dec 30, 2003 09:39 AM

Many of us juggle different kinds of animals. We find a balance to where the well being of one animal is not affected by the presence of another animal.

A bird flying past a chameleon cage every once in awhile isn't going to disturb your cham as much as you think. So long that the place you are keeping your bird isn't in view of your chameleon..

I think will be fine with your flying friend.
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gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 09:41 AM

Thats what I had in mind. Finding a good balance will not be too hard. And when I think about it, it might be "healthy" for my chams to see a flying bird once in a while. Its good, natural stress

My little bird will be far from the chams room. Its all good.

Yeaaah. Im getting a bird.
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Gabriel - Montreal
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chamsrcool Dec 30, 2003 10:32 AM

if you have veilds i wouldn't let them get close to the bird becuase i have heard of large chams eatting small birds...or at least attemping to.

Carlton Dec 30, 2003 05:21 PM

It would take an extremely large veiled to eat even the common finches. I think the bird eating info mostly referred to nestlings rather than adult birds. A parsoni I know has eaten several hummingbirds in its greenhouse. A cockatiel or budgie...no problem.

jovcham Dec 30, 2003 09:49 AM

I have two large macaws right next to my chams winter indoor cages. the macaws come over and take a look at the chameleons but the chameleons dont even seem to notice them. I would not worry.
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From Sunny Florida
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Herper123 Dec 30, 2003 10:33 AM

I have lots of experience with cocketials and lovebirds(get a lovebird there awsome).Chameleons get stressed very easily, so dont have them right up together for long periods.My chameleons cage id close to my water dragons and my chameleon got very stressed.

gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 10:36 AM

I heard lovebrids were a bit noisy... is that true? I cant have a nois bird...
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Gabriel - Montreal
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Herper123 Dec 30, 2003 10:44 AM

We have a pair of cockiteials in are living room and they never shut up ,they are very loud.The lovebirds are upstairs and are very quite enless you start to whistle at them.We even got are dutch blue and peach faced love birds to breed,and got one baby out of it.They lay eggs but don't they don't hatch now.I would get a lovebird, there cheaper,more beautiful,gentler, easier to feed.With are lovebirds if you say give me a kiss they will kiss you on the lips and if you open your mouth they will clean your teeth.

Herper123 Dec 30, 2003 10:47 AM

Hey your Canadian awsome, I'm from Manitoba!

Reptiles Are So Cool

gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 10:50 AM

Montreal, quebec.

it is soooo cold right now.
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Gabriel - Montreal
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second_hand_rose Dec 30, 2003 11:28 AM

OKay I want to start this by saying you can have birds around chameleons just try to keep them at a distance from each other. We have a male vield and 2 budgies - though we try to keep them apart the budgies can fly and prefer to sit and play ontop of the chameleons cage. We tried to shoo them off all the timw but it became more work than anything, so we just covered it with a towel when we could. Sanchoz (the cham) never got really stressed and oftem would sit ona vine bellow the budgies and watch them.

I think its great that you are getting a bird. Anything like a lovie, a tiel or a budgie make great pets. Just get a young one prefferably hand traind. Heres a GREAT forum to check join and check out about birds. They're great help and you can ask a million dumb questions . Good luck

Christa

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gabrielmtl Dec 30, 2003 12:20 PM

np
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Gabriel - Montreal
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Herper123 Dec 30, 2003 10:47 PM

n/p

gabrielmtl Dec 31, 2003 08:09 AM

Im not sure yet.

Some people tell me that Lovebirds are noisy, some people tell me their not.

I will go see some again just after new years. Now im busy preparing the paaaarty for tonigh.

happy new year everyone, btw.
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Gabriel - Montreal
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Carlton Dec 30, 2003 05:29 PM

Cockatiels, budgies, lovebirds and conures can all be noisy at times. They communicate with the world and their flock by calling. I've heard that the quakers, hanging parrots, kakarikis and some parrotlets are less squawky. A lot of the noise happens because the birds don't get enough daily attention or have enough to occupy their time. If you give the bird lots of toys, things to do, space to play, and don't spoil it by giving attention every time it squawks for it you can have a quiet bird.

Carlton Dec 30, 2003 05:30 PM

Also, many of these birds are out there looking for adoptive homes. Look for rescue orgs with birds to place before buying one.

GEMHERP Dec 31, 2003 07:26 AM

Gabriel,

I'll offer some advice here. I have only been into chams for about 2 years now. My primary hobby has been exotic birds for over 20 years. I have all of my animals in my basement. I have literally over 150 lovebirds as well as other types. I have my chams in a room sectioned off from the birds. At times I feel my reptiles are stressed a bit when I first get them (probably wondering what the hell that noise is). But I think after a short period of time they are not bothered (kind of like moving next to a train track eh?).
A single (or even a pair) of lovebirds or cockatiels will not, in my opinion, stress your cham. Especially if they are in another room from the cham.
I've found breeding chameleons very challenging. I can, and have, bred just about any type of bird. I've had limted success with the herps. I'm used to 17-21 days incubation period. When I first read that most chams are at least 9 months I thought it was a serious typo I find it very interesting. Good luck

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