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Vets disagree regarding gram negitive bacteria

B2 Berg Dec 31, 2003 11:47 AM

I recently purchased a six-month old ablino boa (B.c.imperator) from a well known and respected breeder.

Shortly after arrival the animal had a very mushy stool.
a week later, after eating it's first meal, the snake had a second mushy stool, again abnormal in texture and four smelling. A sample of this stool was sent to my vet for testing.

A fecal showed no parasites, but a lab culture tested positive for abundant growth of Escherichia Coli and light growths of Enterobacter species and of Samoniella species.

My vet feels this is a serious problem and showed be treated by medication.

The test results were sent to the breeder, who in turn forwarded to his vet. This vet felt this a normal reaction to an animal subjected to shipping stress and requires no treatment other than sound husbandry.
It was further emphasized that these baceteria's are commonly found in most snakes.

Both vets are experienced in the treatment of reptiles.

I would greatly appreciate the experience and opinion of the forum members as this situation has me caught in the middle of varying, professional opinions.

I might add, the breeder has offered to take the animal back from the very begining, though I do worry about it being re-subjected to shipping stresses. It's outwardly fine, but if it was to die in return shipment, I'm sure it could be a point of contention between myself and the breeder.

Thank you.

Replies (2)

markg Dec 31, 2003 03:37 PM

I wish I had the definitive answer for you. For now, the best thing to do is to offer proper temps with a nice 85-90 deg basking spot and try not to disturb the boa more than necessary.

I've had a baby boa that was shipped in bad conditions. The snake never had mushy stools or any problems ever. I have a new baby boa that is having the problems you describe. I have her quarantined now. The difference? The healthy baby was housed singly shortly after birth; the problem baby was in a previously-used large cage with many littermates.

BCAGLEREPS Dec 31, 2003 07:22 PM

QUESTION. SHIP IT BACK. YOU SHOULD NOT BE GOING THROUGH THIS KIND OF TROUBLE WITH A NEW PURCHASE. SORRY TO HEAR ABOUT THE BOA AND YOUR EXPERIENCE.

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