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Mass Herp Laws-Outcry for Change

sincityretics Dec 31, 2003 01:25 PM

Howdy,
If any herper from Mass is reading this please realize that our laws are obsolete. Look in a MA Petshop you wont find monitors,chameleons,GTPs or ETB but youi will find a flurry of Green Iguanas, Farmed Burmese Pythons, Sulcattas, Redfoot and Leopard Tortosies jammed in 40 gal breeder tanks. Heck youll even find some stores selling ornamental tarantulas and bird eating spiders. But you cant own a Ackie Monitor but, you can posses and Indian Ornamental Spider that has put people in the hospital including myself. You can own a farmed Burmese Python but, you cant own a CB Reticulated Python. You can own a Sulcatta which when adult size can undermine the foundation of a house but, you cant own a Jackson Chameleon. I cant understand these laws. Some changes need to be made. To my understanding these laws were drawn up inpart with the Mass Herp Society. If these seems unfair to you respond with your own opinion Im sure if there is enough people to cause a fuss we can finally get a few changes made.

P.S. Email me if you have any petstore horror stories by your local pet shop Im compiling a little list

Thanks

PS sorry for spelling I was ticked

Replies (5)

Katrina Dec 31, 2003 01:45 PM

You need to get freindly with your district delegate or senator. You can write up your own bill, and ask your delegate or senetor to put it up for the state legislative session.

It might be too late this year, but you can get ready for next year. In the meantime, gather your people that would be willing to meet one-on-one with your delegate and theirs, and be willing to testify in committee when the bill is being considered.

Katrina

Samcin Dec 31, 2003 02:20 PM

Get the code and start now. Involve as many herpers in MASS as you can. It is important to have people to support your bill. It may take a year to get all the reviews, so start now. Get animal control involved too.

Cindy

Vtherpster Dec 31, 2003 05:29 PM

of the Fish and wildlife or dept of agri. The Ma herp society has all of that info. They might even be willing to help you. Ask. And if they are the culprit, write your own reg, Brandon will help you fine tune it.
I remember talking with some Ma Green Tree Python owners that said they would rather pay for a permit to keep the animals than to have these animals available to the general public and kept in poor conditions. Often these are the reasons for some animals on the list.
Keep in mind, pet stores have lists of animals wholesale, they can get anything. he wholesalers flag animals from the list that a particular state has restricted. So if a exotic pet shop person sees something on the wholesale list they want to sell, they can purchase it for sale.Most states still have most venomous snakes legal to sell and keep. And if you run a google search you will find a long list of animals you wouldn't believe.Go to Glade herps for example.
So spiders and insects have still not come into the picture.Be careful in what you do however, it is these splitting of hairs that make it easy to say ban all herps. And me and my harmless collection of well behavd animals falls in into this trap as well.
Contact Ma herp, all the officers are listed.
Good luck on the pet store violations, the groups that should investigate are short staffed and will often turn it over to groups(civilian) that will be the folks calling for a ban of reptiles. Good luck.

Vtherpster Dec 31, 2003 05:43 PM

the puff adder will bite you and the area it bites rots off, There is nothing that I have heard to stop it.I think you are aware of the red spitting cobra and the black & green mamba. These are among some of the things I would prefer the nieghbors kid doesn't have in a shoe box under his/her bed.
look at some of these animals

Katrina Dec 31, 2003 06:10 PM

Actually, I've found that it is easier to draft, submit, defend, and have a bill voted into law than to ask a state department to change their regulations. The state department of ag or wildlife or whatever it is will have to write their regulations in accordance with whatever laws there are.

Katrina

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