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i know that captive bred is the best and it wont have any parasites or anything funkie stuff like that but east bay vivarium has some captive hatched water monitors and i want to know what yall think of that what should i worrie about with captive hatched? and should i takethem to the vet to be tested for parasites and things and if so what exactly should i have them tested for?
happy new year yall & thanks for the help

All of the baby waters you see come in our in the sense of being captive hatched or farmed.

Talk to Robyn at Pro exotics they deal with captive hatched or farmed waters. I am sure he will know what you can expect.

There are no monitor farms and the CH are supposed to be eggs hatched from WC adults in their home country, but I dont believe it at all. They change the name to a more politically correct term to sell them at a higher price. Its called marketing.

"imported" is another name for farmed, but not all the animals are WC. i have discussed and shown the Bushmaster Indo Farm on this forum for example, and they are doing great captive breeding of many species, including monitors.

i don't have intimate knowledge of the Herptofauna Indo setup, but my understanding is that they do much the same thing.

to say that there are no farms is completely incorrect.
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

Herpafuana indo. is very similar to bushmaster. Both are doing great work with reptiles and I hope they keep it up.

There our facilities all over that you could call farms. I believe that term was widely used for the iguanas.

I am not aware of any such setups in Africa though. But that doesnt mean it is not there.

There are no farms dedicated to farming V.salvator. You know the ones that come in by the hundreds. Like the iggie farms.

Is that a more accurate statement. The point is, the mass imported monitors are not being farmed in a way that they are captive produced.

Farmed may mean, catching babies, harvesting nests, catching gravid females. Which in reality is not farmed at all is it?

I hope occasional breedings occur of the common species, but I think the cages/farms are reserved for the rarer more expensive species. I am sure you/they and I, understand, it costs the same to captive breed, common species that sell for a few dollars as it does for less common species that sell for much more.

Thanks Robyn and Happy and successful New year. FR

I dont believe anyone outside the Madras croc bank farms or hatches them in their home countries. They actually dig up nests and incubate eggs artificially.
I asked you when I bought Sobek as a hatchling on the phone "whats the difference between the CH and CBB" you told me that the CH or farmed monitors were imported babies and that you guys get the first pick of them to get good examples. Do you know the name of someone who farms waters or albigs? That the CBB were bred and born in captivity from this country and are far superior in all ways, which they are. The part that tells me a CH monitor is WC is that it acts wild, because it has experienced being free in the wild and misses that freedom.
I think there are far too many businesses out there claiming CB, CH, etc to get higher prices. Even if in case your imported monitors are wild caught they are comparable in price or lower than your competitions WC animals, and the quality of the animals is second to none, as well they have adjusted to humans in most cases by the time you sell them. I always stand behind you on that Robyn. If I had the room I would have bought 1-2 more CBB albigs from you when you guys bred the BTs.