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Hey guys, a question for the breeders here. If 25% patternless albinos can be produced from an albino het. patternless crossed with a patternless het. albino, why aren't PAs more common (and less expensive)? I would imagine many breeders would be able to produce large numbers of these if this was the case.

They're pretty common now, man. The thing is, there hasn't been that long to work on the project, and also, the results vary, so it's not always 25%.
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That man is a liar!

to wat i noe is tat numbers r numbers...........25% is oni a statistical representation.........the percentage would oni b accurate if u produce say, 10,000 hatchlings (jus like coin flippin, u seldom get 5 heads and tails for 10 tries. Instead u wil get like 8 heads and 2 tail or sometime 10 heads/tail !!!)

ALOT of outcrossing needs to be done on them. this next year ask before you buy... from people i know that have bred pa to pa, alot of problems occured. you might see a price difference in pa's this year depending on the amount of outcrossing done. also you will see differences in prices depending on the bloodline of Pa's.... some pa's are very light in color while others are neon yellow. this year you may very well see a saturation in PA's but there will be alot of differences from person to person in the quality of them... outcrossed? color??? ask questions chances are you may pay more for an outcrossed bright yellow PA and i dont se them going below 100 bucks this year, unless its possibly an inperfect animal, kinked tail ect.
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-robin struck
Geckoheads And Geeks

Fact is the rainwater PA's were first hatched back in 2001 i believe (kelli correct me if i am wrong). Since then this past year was the first real year they were released to the public in great quantities. Now that breeders have PA's they can breed to PA's and not 1 PA's they can breed to 50 double hets for PA. THe number of eggs laid and the number of PAs that hatch will be alot great (infact 100 percent if breed PAxPA) This means there will be a lot greater availibility for Rainwater PAs this upcoming year, and do expect the price to drop a bit. However paying 200-300 dollars for a high end leopard gecko is not a bad price especially when it contains 2 simple recessive traits. THe tremper PA's were first released to the public the past season and expect them to become more prevalent and drop in price next year.

Jason

Patternless albinos started out really expensive this year. 400 to 500 range. They are now down to around 200. I think there will be plenty of them this next year. So much so that the market will be flooded with them. I think by June, you should be able to pick one up for less than 100 dollars.
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You can never have just one gecko. Actually it is almost impossible to have two
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$100 I think not. The PA produced this upcoming year will probably be the best batch yet. All my breeding are from my PA male to Super Hypo(DH)PA. I think the babies will be so much better this year. I expect to produce nice orange bodies with a good bit of carrot-tail. I wouldnt expect to pay 100 maybe 150 would be closer.

Sure there will be various PAs that will go higher. I just think there is going to be more supply out there than demand. Seems as if everyone is working with PAs.
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You can never have just one gecko. Actually it is almost impossible to have two
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