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I didn't think there was anything bad in it , and it seemed like he/she was getting some good advice about what to do with her/his beardies. (Plus they deleted a cute picture of my baby )
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Stacey

Seemed like things were finally starting to cool off, then *poof*

violated TOS probably by making diparaging remarks, I may have been guilty.
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Derek Affonce
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I just am not into the nicey nice when someone is advised already and they ignore it or do things and THEN ask if it was okay, you would think since they are on a care forum, they would ask first, obviously they know where to go for it! It does not make much sense to me.

I've seen to many disaster from lack of quarantine and young female dragons put in with males. In almost all situations, the male was pre existing in the household and the female was bought "for him".

It seems like there is no concern for the female since there is no bond established with her, and she is the one that takes all the damage of the situation..... I think its sad I hate to see young females put through this, but it happens so often.

How many times have all of us on here seen someone post like that, then post about eggs and babies.... then a female that is not recovering, dies, babies dying, etc? and the whole time others advising then not to do what they are doing and they just ignore it.

Learn about them first then take all the precautions to make sure they thrive, before we leap to the next step or something that can not be undone. That involves a lot of planning and pre-care. Its easy to let them down and it so avoidable!

These are living creatures and ones that stress or husbandry can make a difference not only in their survival but the condition of the future offspring too.

All the advise in the world does no good if others are not listenting to it and have their own agenda in mind and not that of the animals. When a post changes several times over the thread, makes you wonder what their real story is.
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It wasn't bad??? It was constructive??? I don't have the energy to repeat what I posted but basically my comment was:

Those of you who are "vessels of BD knowledge" and obviously care a great deal about the species in general are not helping when you try to slam someone on here that obviosly has a lot to learn....
What do you mean by;;; "someone is advised already and they ignore it or do things and THEN ask if it was okay"

I got into this predicament because I did precisely what I was told by my trusted breeder and several others confirmed it incl the owner of the local herp shop. I only learned of this forum last week - my 1st post I get blasted.

It got ugly when I suggested I may sell Rex but I left out why: #1 - I have a close friend that would be glad to take him in and we can still see him grow up. #2 - if I want to fork over another $325 I can get a clutchmate of Gingers (our new female). She's been housed with her her whole life (8 mths) w/o incident until of course she was bagged, stuffed & shipped here.

I thought the thread that got deleted was constructive. It gave you a chance to give us more of an explanation where you were coming from, and other people put a lot of time and effort into some long and informative posts that were not only educational for you, but also for other readers.

I soaked all the info in and I also got a lot of information from someone who opted to not post but email me and agree with the point I was trying to make and then go on to help quit a bit.

But you are right - there was some good learning's for others!

If you are willing to spend $300 on another dragon, why not just use that money to buy another enclosure and keep the dragons you have? It's a sure thing your dragons will do better in seperate enclosures, be them male or female, than two in one enclosure. Then you won't have to go to the trouble of getting rid of the male and buying yet a third dragon.

Just getting another female might not solve the problem anyway... There are no guarantees two females’ goes well together. I have two females - they can't be near each other. One of them is mean to the other. So I have separate cages for all of them. That is the best.

When you have more than one dragon – you shall be prepared to have separate cages.

/Gunilla
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That's what I hearing but I can get one of her clutchmates that she has supposedly been happily living with since day 1 (8 mths).

Thanks

I hope you'll see this post - it is far down...
Anyway, it might work with a sister that she "grew up" with - but it is still no guarantee... you just never know. It is always best to be prepared to separate if they don't get along.
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We don't have the room in my sons room for for an appropriately sized cage. She's in a large opaque container on the floor right now (same as what she lived in before I got her). He lives in a 68 gal cage which I thought about petitioning. I also built a really nice 5' x 3' outdoor cage which could easily be petitioned.

A concern I have is that if my guy is a horny toad this will be torture for him!

We had a male that was so set on breeding and we wanted to breed to a female we had..... well it was not for lack of him trying, she just was not receptive and certainly held her own with him, bopping him over the head with her arm and then hiding and leaping out to pounce on him.

We gave up after a few tries..,, he was too insistant and she was not interested, it just was not gonna happen, but he still sulked and lost weight til I was becoming worried for him and they were never in the same cage together or could see each other except for the three times for several minutes, over several days, they were both out loose in a room to hopefully mate.

He dropped almost 100 grams in a few months, it is not unusual for breeding age males to lose weight through the breeding season, it seems that is all they can think of!
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