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UPDATE ON THE 49' RETIC...

bmendyk Jan 03, 2004 12:41 AM

Hi everyone,

It turns out that the "incredible" retic that was discovered is nothing more than a mere 6.5 - 7 meters, or a mere 21' in length. There is a certain buyer here in the states who was entertaining an offer of $1 million for the snake if it did in fact end up being longer than the existing record of 33 feet. The new measurements were supposedly supplied from the broker in indo which was entertaining the possible transaction. It's amazing what a little bit of publicity can do.... We all knew that this snake was not anywhere's near the claims, but it actually ended up being shorter than most of us expected!!

I will post more information as soon as I hear more.

bm

Replies (24)

wirehair Jan 03, 2004 09:23 AM

That's interesting if that's true. Could you provide the source for that information? I didn't think 49', but it sure looked a lot bigger than 21'.

Mayo Jan 05, 2004 10:06 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1116074,00.html

wirehair Jan 05, 2004 10:16 AM

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redhed Jan 05, 2004 05:59 PM

Thanks for that link - I suspected this snake was short of 30 feet, since it was likely that if it truly was 30 feet, it seems the owners would have tried to claim the NYZS (WCI) $50,000 reward by now.

I read it, and found it pretty amusing that this guy is trying to measure the snake with a tape measure. Why does this still happen? We measured many, many green anacondas the most accurate (reliable) way possible - by using a piece of string, and winding it along the back, or "spine" of the snake, or more correctly along the invisible mid-line of the snake, one arms' stetch of string at a time, then measure the string. Do this at least three times, and take the average measurement of all 3 (or more than 3, especially if the snake is particularly wiggly at the time of measurement, which is not ideal, of course.)

This is the passive measurement, and involves no stretching or manipulation of the snake, and thus gets the most realistic measurement. Surprising how many "59" foot snakes shrink a lot with this method, maybe why it remains uncommon?

Renee

SHvar Jan 03, 2004 10:04 AM

I showed my one friend who recently sold his 23 ft retic these pics, in response he showed me pics of him handling teaky, if you compare them both they were the same size, only my friend didnt take deceptive pictures from funny angles to make teaky look bigger. If you look at the pictures on a link further down the page and see the 2 guys carrying the snake around, or with a few people in front of the cage its in, its no where near that size or weight they claim. If it were close to 30 ft or more they would have it paraded around the world to claim the millions still unclaimed to this day for any snake dead or alive longer than 30 ft, the one that started with Teddy Roosevelt at $10,000 before he was president. I have a video of giant reptiles with a segment on Burmese pythons and a clip with "baby" at over 28ft long she was the longest "proven" snake and heaviest.

mchambers Jan 03, 2004 11:50 AM

So, if this shows, how big is this snake / I know because I'm in the pic.

stephen Jan 03, 2004 12:02 PM

I would say the burm in that pic looks to be like maybe 17 feet give or take. Nice burm man look at those sideburns you guys have hahah lol you can tell that was a long time ago i would say the 70's but the picture is black and white but i have been fooled before

mchambers Jan 03, 2004 12:16 PM

of big burm......

mchambers Jan 03, 2004 12:20 PM

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John Fraser Jan 03, 2004 04:26 PM

the 2nd guy from the right is Mike Chambers, better known to us now as "Chambo", lol. Yes I beleive this picture was from the early 70's if I am remembering right, if I'm wrong Chambo will correct me...........JF

mchambers Jan 03, 2004 04:39 PM

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Jody P. Jan 03, 2004 10:10 PM

Heaviest Living Snake
The heaviest living snake is a Burmese Python weighing 182.76 kg (403 lb.) It is 21 years old, 8.23-m (27 ft) long, and has a girth of 71.12 cm (28 in) Known as "Baby", she lives at the Serpent Safari Park in Gurnee, Illinois, USA.

Right about now she is the heaviest dead snake.

I saw her in person as I grew up in IL.. She was a huge obese snake.

Ryan Shackleton Jan 03, 2004 11:26 PM

When did she die? That's the first I heard of it.

Jody P. Jan 04, 2004 12:49 AM

Seeing I now live in FL. I was told by a friend that still lives up in IL. that she had passed away. When I visited her she was in Wisconsin Dells, as the Gurnee facility was not open yet. I was there around the time she was being photographed by guiness and before that. I moved during or of the time the gurnee facility was opened. I have not made it there but I hear Lou has a new burm there he is rearing up that is fairly large.

mancuso Jan 04, 2004 04:50 PM

I was recently at Serpent Safari. The tour guide started in with her speech about the snake in front of us. As she was stating that the snake was 27 feet 400 pounds or whatever, and the crowd gasping, I'm looking at a burm that is not even 14 feet, coiled in a circle less than 3 feet in diameter. They just pulled a swap without even mentioning it, and the worst part was that nobody else seemed to notice. I thought she may have been out somewhere or something, but it seems highly probable that she could have passed away. We'll have to wait and see what Lou says.
Nick

Jody P. Jan 04, 2004 01:10 AM

Here is baby the large burmese python. Her head doesn't appear large in the photo's to me. Seeing Louis is on his knees in the picture you'd think it would take barely more then two of his body lengths to account for hers.

SHvar Jan 04, 2004 02:41 AM

The guiness books measurement in 1998 (27 feet), Nigel Marvins "Giant Reptiles" video (2001 or 2002?) where they show her and give the updated measurement as 28ft 6 inches. She is listed as the longest snake ever proven, not a skin measured from a dead snake. Im sure she grew in 5 years before she died.
To this day that money for a snake that exceeds 30 ft is around $25 million and still uncollected.
The retic in those pics "the 49 footer" is very obese.
The largest retic in captivity ever "page 10 Reptile magazine, March 2003" was 26 feet and 275 lbs, died in the Bronx zoo (Samantha).

Cobraboy Jan 03, 2004 11:19 AM

Hi Gang, I have a record ball python shown in the attached picture. I never measured or weighed her but she is surely the worlds largest snake. You can use the car in the pic as a reference to get an idea of just how large she is. My guess would be over 1000 pounds and close to fifty feet. I feed her giant rats that I also raise. The average giant rat is sixty to seventy pounds. If any one is interested in a pic of the giant rats I could also post them as well. She(Josie) is not for sale as she is a part of the family, we raised her from a baby and we are too attached, I am sure you all understand.

DanielKremers Jan 03, 2004 05:08 PM

Wow that ball python dwarfs that Cobra!

manaconda Jan 03, 2004 09:30 PM

how about this retic it gotta be huge lol.I didnt make it.I found this pic on the internet along time ago so whom ever made it thanks. right pic right time?!

dannygood1 Jan 06, 2004 12:17 AM

You can't fool me (us snake experts). That's a midget/dwarf man in the photo. Good try.

manaconda Jan 06, 2004 04:58 PM

actually the snake is 49 lbs an 983 feet long

Lafayette Jan 05, 2004 04:03 PM

Priceless!

But really you should consider switching from giant rats to "pinky" sasquatches keeping in line with its natural diet.

dannygood1 Jan 08, 2004 09:44 PM

Please don't breed her, all we need are giant ball pythons, minature retics and white burmeses....

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