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mikey2231 Jan 04, 2004 09:09 PM

I just got a new african spurred tortoise today at the pgh reptile show. he's about 2 or 3 inches long. i had some questions on them. i need as much info as possible. Thanks os much.

QUESTIONS

1. temps. i have him in a 20 gallon long tank with a uvb bulp, and another regulur bulp for heat. it gets about 85, and then 75-80 on the cool side. I can keep him outside yet, but when it gets warm he'll be out there.

2. Food. What to feed all the time, some of the time, and as a treat? I have some green leafe, turnip greens, mustartd reeens, dandlion leaves.

3. Water and soaking.

4. substrate. i have hi m on paper towels for now, and one large log hide.

5. It took me about 45 min to get him home today, then sometime to get his lights to work. i put him in the cage and he started making this light little churp when he would move his head. is this from stress?

sorry that this was so long. thanks for your help. any other info would be great. thanks.

mike.

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Edited on January 9, 2004 at 12:09:19 by phwyvern.

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Chiro Jan 04, 2004 09:25 PM

Hi Mike

For food visit http://www.africantortoise.com/diet.htm

In the wild, these herbivores species primarily on grass. In captivity the
ideal situation for these animals to sustain themselves, is to just allow
them to graze in a well planted chemically untreated area of your yard.
Fruit isn't something that is really native to these animals and can create
all kinds of gastric disturbances. Best to avoid. The only fruit they get in
the wild is the fruit of the opuntia (only in parts of their range and
seasonal).
Because providing a grazing area isn't always possible, its easy to over
rely on wet produce greens and intestinal problems and loose stools are
often encountered. Adding Hay to the diet to will balance this effect.
http://www.OxbowHay.com is a good source of Orchard and Timothy Hay (get the
early cutting or beardless kind). Long term ingestion of the chemicals
commonly sprayed on produce is a health concern. Choose organic greens when
possible or be sure to wash in mild soapy water and rinse well. Remove
plastic and metal wrappers so your torts don't accidentally ingest these.

Nutritious chemical free healthy foods are often freely available in your
yard or vacant lots.
Grasses, Clovers, Grape, Mulberry & Fig leaves, Dandelion, Plantain (the
weed) , Hibiscus (leaves and flowers), Opuntia, Thistles, Chickweed

Better of the easily obtainable grocery greens:
Aim for a high Calcium to Phosphorus ratio and low protein diet. When fed in
excess, foods high in Oxalates have been implicated in binding minerals
including calcium (marked with asterisk*).
Moderation and variety is the key.

- Regularly: Dark Leafy Greens such as:
Endive, *Watercress, Romaine, *Collard Greens, *Kale, Dandelion, Chicory,
Escarole, Radicchio, Turnip Greens, Opuntia (smooth or despined)
- Occasionally:
Cabbage, Squash, Carrots, Carrot Tops, Red Leaf Lettuce, Mustard Greens,
Alfalfa Hay, Parsley
- Rarely: Swiss Chard, Broccoli, Bokchoy, Iceberg lettuce, Sweet Potatoes,
Sprouts of any kind,
Corn, Cucumbers, Beet Greens, Fruit in general.
- Never: Spinach, Rhubarb, Beans of any kind, dog food, pasta

for substrate I use a 50/50 mix of Bed-A_Beast and sand.
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Joe(Chiro)

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