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Breeding Season 2004

electricbluescat Jan 07, 2004 04:16 PM

Hope all first time breeders have a good year! I will not be breeding till 2007. I had a question what would you get if you bred a lavender blue eyed blonde california kingsnake to a lavender albino california kingsnake or a normal albino california kingsnake.

There was womenz to the left womenz to the right man I must be in heaven tonight

john

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Brandon Osborne Jan 07, 2004 05:24 PM

It really depends on the strain of Lavender. There are two, possibly 3, strains of lavender albino in cal kings.....this does not include regular amels. You could breed 2 lavenders together and get all normals. If you bred lavender to amel. you would get all 2x hets. You really have to know what strain you have, which unless the breeder knows, is impossible without breeding trials. The lavender strains were coined JD and JR strains. I just remember seeing them on Lloyd Lemke's list years ago. Maybe Kirby or another cal king entheusiest can elaborate. Good luck.

Brandon Osborne

Posted by: electricbluescat at Wed Jan 7 16:16:56 2004 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

Hope all first time breeders have a good year! I will not be breeding till 2007. I had a question what would you get if you bred a lavender blue eyed blonde california kingsnake to a lavender albino california kingsnake or a normal albino california kingsnake.

electricbluescat Jan 07, 2004 09:23 PM

are the lavender blue eyed blonde california kingsnakes a true albino? i meant like a dark pigment ruby red albino california king bred to a blue eyed california kingsnake.
I have two pairs of unrelate lavender albino ruby red eyed california kings. 2 of them are acutally banded and the other two have broken bands and 1 has a combination of broken bands / stripes. is one of the strains you meant? i have never seen a lavender albino california kingsnake like the 2 broken banded ones I have. heres a pic of jimi my male 2003 california kingnake for comparison.

and heres the link to the lavender blue eyed blondes

http://www.vividreptiles.com/pages/calking.html

john

Brandon Osborne Jan 08, 2004 12:28 AM

It's hard to tell what you have really. It could be that all of your lavenders are the same strain. As I said before, unless you know for sure, the only way to tell is by breeding. The snake in the pic looks young, but does look like a lavender. I've seen people try to pass off amels as lavenders. Lavenders are pink/lavender as adults. Amels are white as adults. As for the blue-eyed blonde......I have no idea. Your best bet would be to contact the breeder to get as much info as you can. I know there are people on here that have them, it just may take awhile for them to respond. I hope I helped a little.

Brandon

electricbluescat Jan 08, 2004 01:06 AM

Whats sad about the true lavender blue eyed blondes is that habitat destruction did them in they are no long found in the wild. I would like to get involved with convservation and start a foundation for reptiles someday. i saw pics of the parents of my other lavender albinos and they was huge. i can only hope they get as big as the parents

john

Nokturnel Tom Jan 08, 2004 03:17 PM

Ya know if you read about the Blue Eyed Blondes on the Vivid site he tells how the area where they were found has now been developed into housing..........therefor the chances of more being found are slim to none. It would be a shame to let this unique locale snake be lost to mixing and matching it with other morphs and whatnot. I guess it wouldn't hurt to breed the male to another Cal King to see what would come of it but it would make much more sense to get a pair to breed to each other. Especially seeing there's so many other combinations of morphs to breed together. Just something to consider. Tom

electricbluescat Jan 08, 2004 10:00 PM

I agree with you on that. Alot of people don't know that blue eyed california kingsnakes exist. To me its something unique and should be preserved.

Nokturnel Tom Jan 08, 2004 10:13 PM

Honestly I came to close to buying a pair last year and the year before but I ended up getting other snakes. I did get some Thayeri and Deppei from Vivid and I am really happy with them. If I have any extra cash this season I may grab a pair, they're finally starting to get noticed and I really don't think there's many out there to be had yet. Seems I really have Brooksi and Hondo fever these days, I'm not much for the Cal Kings but it is cool to see this particular snake getting a little attention. Tom

electricbluescat Jan 09, 2004 04:40 PM

I agree with you if that a species of animal is rare then steps should be taken to preserve it in in the wild. Conservation is the key. I have very luck to see many animals in the wild that alot of people have not been able to. One year while on vacation to Gulf Shores Alabamba I got to see a giant manta ray in the wild. It was awsome.

john

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