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To begin with, I really don't have too much knowledge on hot snakes as you are about to find about. I mainly stick with to the ball python forum because thats what I own, but I always look at this forum because I think it's awesome you guys keep such dangerous but awesome snakes! And I like to see the pictures people post of their snakes here. But the rookie question I have is, what is the difference between venomous and venomoid? I saw the big dispute a few posts below, but couldnt figure it out? Can somone briefly explain? THANKS!
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Sure. A venomoid snake is a venomous snake that has been physicaly altered to render it harmless. This is normally done by surgical removal of the venom glands.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I can see why so many people are against altering the appearance of a snake. I guess I can see why people would do that because its safe, but changing something that is natural by surgery should not be done.
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Yes. However, it's not just changing the appearance of the snake, although that is a frequent result (however unintentional). It is surgically removing the venom glands.

We humans frequently surgically alter our pets, as in spaying and neutering dogs and cats. It is the reason behind the surgical alteration that raises so many hackles. Dogs and cats are neutered in order to control the populations and the numbers of unwanted and stray pets. By controlling the numbers of strays, it logically follows that you will reduce the spread of disease, the number of dogs and cats run over on the roads, the number of pets killed by strays, and the number of strays suffering starvation. Spaying and neutering also have the side benefits of a reduction in certain types of cancer, especially in females, the reduction of the tendency to wander in males should they escape, some reduction in aggressive traits in male dogs, etc. There is also the fact that dogs and cats are domestic animals. Venomous snakes are not.

Producing venomoid snakes has been compared to declawing cats, removing canine teeth potentially dangerous pets(such as Lions, Pumas, Tigers, monkeys, etc.), docking of tails, ears, etc. That is, it's surgically altering the animal purely for the convenience or pleasure of the owner and provides no real benefit for the animal. It is purely designed to provide persons who desire to keep venomous animals but are afraid of them an opportunity to keep them in safety.

Therein lies the rub. There is one camp that is bitterly opposed to the idea of surgically altering an animal purely for the convenience of the owner. There is the other camp that sees nothing wrong with the practice.

In this forum it seems they meet and clash.

Ok We now see both sides. So does anyone know of a person close to me who can do this surgery? I think it is called an adenectomy or something similar I live in Oregon

Ok, you need to get in touch with the oregon butcher.
he works out of his garage or basement and has no vet license.
kills a lot of snakes sells them before the stitches are even out.
if you want to deal with guys like that your not much of a hot herper.
get a corn snake.

>>>>>>>Ok, you need to get in touch with the oregon butcher.
he works out of his garage or basement and has no vet license.
kills a lot of snakes sells them before the stitches are even out. if you want to deal with guys like that your not much of a hot herper. get a corn snake.>>>>>>>>>

Hhahaha, i agree, if the kitchen is too hot, stay out! If you can't keep a venomous snake WITH IT'S VENOM, then keep a non-venomous, they are just as beautiful, and you won't have to mutilate them! Better yet, don't keep snakes at all, because anyone willing to butcher animals just because they aren't confident enough of their skills to keep them, but still want to keep them anyway, shouldn't be keeping them at all!

This whole clash between the venomoid supporters and opposers is never going to end, but I can't see how the supporters think they are right...what benefit to the snake does this surgery give? None? Okay, then it's wrong...nuff said.

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