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To be perfectly honest... Your post was aload of rubbish, EVERYONE Has to start as a 'Newbie' Reading any amounts of information of caresheets and books etc will not give you experience, Which Most of these Questions are over. And another thing, I'd support your post if there was a 'Beginner Cornsnake Owners Forum' but to my knowlage there isnt! This is pretty much my soul source of Cornsnake information available to me! This is my opinion, sorry if it offends you.

Anthony.
(Beginner!)

I understand that everyone starts out learning a lot. I was making a generalization and was not implying that everyone posts stupid questions. Also, you're correct in that books and caresheets are only part of learning. But some questions people post should be addressed either at the time of sale or prior to buying a herp. For instance, someone buys a snake and does not know the type of snake they're buying, hence the 'what type of cornsnake is this?' posts.

As far as this forum being your only source of info, I'd recommend to use a wide range of corn snake info. Someone even pointed out in a below post that alot of beginner quesitons are being answered by beginners, and may not always be correct. At the very least, SOME dealers (not all) plus pet stores reading various threads could easily see that they need to provide customers with more service and info beyond just making the sale.

As for offending me, nah...it takes a lot. I enjoy reading most of the posts here and will always be learning too. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else... I certainly did not mean it. In fact, it was not that long ago that this forum was clogged with people trolling and posting completely absurd things.

PS - There was no need to start a new thread. You could've replied to my post below.

Sorry about posting a new thread, your right I was 'In the moment' hehe. As for the books and care sheets i'v got and read enough to make my eyes bleed, but nothing compares to first hand experience of the prior generations of Herpers! and the younger as it may seem. i.e This Forum! Anyway, Thanks!

Cheers Anthony
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>>I understand that everyone starts out learning a lot. I was making a generalization and was not implying that everyone posts stupid questions. Also, you're correct in that books and caresheets are only part of learning. But some questions people post should be addressed either at the time of sale or prior to buying a herp. For instance, someone buys a snake and does not know the type of snake they're buying, hence the 'what type of cornsnake is this?' posts.

How often have you went into a pet store and asked someone working there what kind of snake they have on display, and they couldnt give you the right answer?

With all the morphs and hybrids out there, how is a beginner supposed to know exactly what he or she is getting?? I dont know how many times I have argued with someone in a pet store about the type of snake being mislabled. So I can see how a beginner could become confused.

>>As far as this forum being your only source of info, I'd recommend to use a wide range of corn snake info. Someone even pointed out in a below post that alot of beginner quesitons are being answered by beginners, and may not always be correct. At the very least, SOME dealers (not all) plus pet stores reading various threads could easily see that they need to provide customers with more service and info beyond just making the sale.

Again, I wouldnt take anything at face value I was told by a pet store! Too much incorrect or just downright bad info gets put out by them. I dont mind answering questions for "newbies", because we all had to start out somewhere. I would rather answer the same question 10 times vs. having someone not ask a question, and the snake suffers because of ignorance on the owners part.

>>As for offending me, nah...it takes a lot. I enjoy reading most of the posts here and will always be learning too. Sorry if I offended you or anyone else... I certainly did not mean it. In fact, it was not that long ago that this forum was clogged with people trolling and posting completely absurd things.
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>>PS - There was no need to start a new thread. You could've replied to my post below.

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1.0 Corn snake
1.0 Black rat snake
1.0 Albino Black rat snake
1.0 Everglades rat snake
0.1 Yellow rat snake
1.1 California king snake
1.0 Prairie king snake
0.1 Black king snake

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

>>There are times when an unexperienced eye may not know if the snake they have is a candy cane or an amel, a creamsicle or an amel, a ghost or a light anery and most commonly a normal, classic or okeetee. There are more but you see my point. With this you have the added problem of people and stores that represent their animals as something other then what they are. You also have the ones that are a less then normal looking representative of a particular morhp and it is just hard to be sure.
So, although there are some questions that can be seemingly "less-then-smart" I think that "what kind of corn is this" can be quite an understandable question.
I fell into this myself. Although I didn't actually ask the question here, I had questions about my "amel". As she grew I was more and more convinced there was something just not amel about her. I went back to the breeder/store owner and found out what I had suspected...creamsicle. As a baby she was listed as amel and appeared as any other amel would. He had just inadvertantly placed it in the wrong tank (or one of his employees did).

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Remember, my posts are MY opinion only.
Jimmy (draybar)

once you have read a couple of books and a number of caresheets, (and have gotten whatever good info that you can from them) - that it will be really helpful to talk to real people (either in person or online) to see how their experiences concur or differ from what you have read.

I am usually quite impressed when a beginner asks a question that shows (s)he has done some reading and is trying to sort out which of the info gathered is most appropriate, and why. I often go out of my way to help novices who show such initiative.