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Hello fellow chameleon lovers -

I resently purchase a 2 month old Nosy Be at the unheard of price of $50.00, the catch is that it doesn't have much of a tail due to the fact that its kin had nipped it off. I had know care at all about this in hopes that I may have purchased a female that I can breed with the 18 month old male I already have and produce many more. My question is how is the best way to sex this little guy? I know about the bulge at the base of the tail but is there any other way, right now I see no bulge. I'm trying to attach a pic witht this as well and if it doesn't show maybe someone can help with this also.

Thanks much - Thomas
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Your pic didn't show but at 2 months sexing is a guess. Never sexed a 2 month old by a bulge or lack there of.

Okay still haven't figured out how to upload a pic but here is a link to the photo gallery: http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.pl?photo=120057

I've also posted a pic of the male I intend to breed which can be seen here: http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.pl?photo=120059

Your male looks real nice.
As for the baby, what happened tp it's tail?
The tail is like a 5th leg helping to keep balanced and keep you from removing from the cage. They will wrap it around whay ever they can lol.
It's too young for me to tell sex, i can usually tell at 5 months. If it turns out to be a female down the road you should get nice babies from them.

Hi Thomas,

At 2 months, there isn't much "bulge" to notice.
Judging from this picture - I would guess a male though.

Hope you take pictures as it gets older so we can tell for sure.
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Reptayls -

Now you say their is no noticeable bulge (which I've determined) and the question I asked is, "What is the best way to sex this little one?" besides the bulge that may be present which it is not as I explained in my first post! You tell me that from what you can judge from the picture that it is a male yet you've not told me what leads you to "thinking" this. So I ask again, "What is the best way of determining the sex of this panther (How did you come to this conclusion) or is it still to early to tell?"

Thank you - Thomas

Color is how people try and determine what sex a baby is. You have to see few babies at different ages to.
Calm down you seem to be getting upset..

Thomas,

I guess after hatching out hundreds of babies and watching them grow and develop - well, it gives one some insight.

Most times I can sex our panthers by a few days... and I've gotten pretty good at it. I doubt that I will ever reach 100% accuracy - but my hubby thinks I am averaging 95. I have gotten accurate at sexing pygmy chams (R brevs) right after birth too.

I look at the shape of the body - and the patterns on the animals. Females have different patterns to their vertical bars - and the colors that the animal is showing, sometimes helps too.

But relying on color is not always a sure thing.... case in point is this female (pictured). When she was very young hubby thought she was a boy.... I always knew she was a female. Maybe it is partly woman's intuition..... LOL

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Reptayls -

So what you are actually looking at in the pic of mine is the fact that he is already starting to show his horizonal white bar along the body?? Your female pic is beautiful, any chance you are selling any females and if so what are you looking to get for one or would you consider some sort of a future trade for one of mine to mix up the bloodline a bit. That of course would be a while considering that I still need to get my female! Not sure if you had seen the pic of my Tamatave "Dude" but he is extremely dosile and the one I want to breed.

Also do you have any contact info, a web site maybe were I can look at the panthers you have?

Thanks for the help!
Thomas

Thomas,

Not just the horizontal bar... but the vertical patterns too. The small patches of blue color there by the arm helps to indicate the male pattern emerging.

We have no tamatave females for sale at the moment - but that could change by the early next month. Since your adult male (very nice one too), is 18 months - you should try to get an older female (10 months or so), so that age/size difference wouldn't be a factor. We have seen with some large males, too small of a female - and they have less interest in the female. Not sure why - either.

There are some young tamataves being offered in the classified ads here.... but I haven't seen too many adult females lately being sold. If you cannot locate one, we can help find you one. We would recommend that you breed "locale specific" so as to pass along the good bloodline that your male has.

We have an album here on KS (reptayls)... and a forum on MSN (http://groups.msn.com/REPTAYLSChameleons) - and are currently building a website (www.reptayls.com). Hopefully I will get started on the photo gallery soon... have thousand of pictures to exhibit. We ran out of room to store photos on MSN 2 yrs ago. *LOL*

Don't rush into buying another cham just because you think yours might be the wrong gender.... wait for another month to see if "the bulge" develops.

Take good care,
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