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Hi everyone, i'm new to the forum.

I just bought myself a pair of collard lizards from a local pet shop in the UK. The female i have is very thin, and i've been trying to fatten her up since i got her with waxworms and plenty of crickets. the problem is that she doesnt seem to be fattening up at all, so i've come to the conclusion that it's likely she has internal parasites. Is there any medication i can get to clear them up without going to the vet, or am i going to have to take a fecal sample to get analysed? Have any of you had problems with parasites before? If so, it it relatively easy to clear up or is it gong to be a problem? Thank you.

Dan.

Hi Dan, I emailed you ! Hope your 2 put on the weight and do great, have to post some pics for us !

Eve

Hi Eve,

thanks for the reply. I didn't get the email though, my address is danielread81@hotmail.com. I'll try and post a pic now, its my female collard, which is definitely looking the thinner of the two.

Dan.

I just see an X no picture, Have to try again Dan

Eve

ok, i'l try and post a pic again, hopefully it'll work. here's the skinny female resting

here she is again

Last one. As you can see, she really is quite skinny. I took these photos a few days ago. I got in a load of wax worms today, so i put a load in a bowl for her and she ate about 6, and is lookig considerably fatter now. Hopefully she will improve more with a bit of tlc. I'll post some pics of the male tomorrow when i get a chance, Does anyone have any idea what species/subspecies this collard is? Thanks.

Dan.

try feeding her some superworms i would recommend too, those really 'fatten' up your guys, especially mine... i have to stop feeding them constant superwoms for fear they'll explode

not female like you say, (just my take from pic) In first pic seems to have black dewlap showing unless I'm nuts, and in the last pic I think I see black inguinal patches underneath near hip. If there are black patches it's a male.
Again I may be seeing things.

Very cool looking lizard, see what others think, as far as bicinctores or not ! Looks wc , maybe why your having the weight issues.

Like I say see what everyone else has to say ! Very nice though pretty, will look fantasic when hes beefed up ! Thanks of r the pic

Eve

Hi Eve,

you are more than likely right about it beeing a male. I had based my assumption on the fact that the other one is more colourful, and i had read that the males were brighter, and that females tended to be gray with white spots. I'll have to post some pics of the other one and see what you think. Thanks for the help.

Dan.

Others will have to look at the pics, LOL I said Bicinctores because the tail looks laterally compressed to me in pic and I thought it was brownish,

Eve

looking again at the photos, i must admit she does look quite brown, but the photos have exaggerated it a bit, in reality it's it more of a grey/brown colour. Looking through the photos on http://www.geocities.com/crotaphytus/index.html i really can't find a species that does match up in terms of colour. On all the species pictured there, the white is reduced to dots on the back. On mine the white is covering a much larger area, and it is the grey/brown colour which makes up the dots. I'm confused looking at all the pictures of the different species. Is the stripey colour found on juveniles, and it disappears as they become older (like in leopard geckos?). Sorry for my ignorance, i've been doing plenty of research on the net, but there isnt a huge amount of infomation available on this species (i can't understand why, they're such great lizards!).
Thanks,

Dan.

Well male bicinctores have the rust bars across them too, there is another species, that resembles the bicinctores, except LACKS the rust bars and that is the C. Grimeri.

Eve

...to me, from the compressed tail, coloration, and inguinal patches.

DC
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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

figured it was C. Bicinctores and MALE not female. But then Dan said it was gray.

Eve

Right, here's the photo of the other collard lizard i have (i wont say female, as i'm really not too sure, i had a look at the scales under the vent, and they are definitely smaller that the males, but i dont know how old it is, is there only a noticable difference once they reach a certain age?). Can you tell what sex it is, and is it the same species as the male? Thank you.

Dan.

...of Mojaves. Those guys look like they have had a rough time of it, you need to make certain they are drinking by offering some water to them with an eyedropper occasionally and keeping a small dish of water in the enclosure at all times. If there is one particular food item they seem to prefer and accept readily, offer it to them until they won't eat any more of it. (Except mealworms, which they will probably regurge after 6 or more of those.) Find something they like and really pack it in them for a while, they are seriously underweight!

DC
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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

Dan's showing us the same collared in all three shots he just calls him a female,

Eve

..."up" a couple of posts has no inguinal patches, no ventrally complete anterior collar, and much more yellow pigment on the legs.... But it has the heavy black collars with a distinct white dividing band of some C. binctores... I'd guess female C. bicinctores on this one (and yes he did say its a different one LOL)

DC
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I've got the blues...LOL...them screamin' yellow-head blues...

But those three photos are the same lizard LMAO
And if ya look close in the last photo you can see the
black inguinal patches. Unless I'm blind or it is something black under it.

Lets ask
Hey Dan, does this collared posted have black patches underneath near hip region??

Farm boy, I'm telling ya its the same lizard all three times, ROFL

Eve

Hi DC,

Yeah, i'm pretty worried about them as they are really skinny, but as i said earlier, they are still both healthy and active, so hopefully with plenty of food they will fatten up. I'm giving them and endless supply of crickets at the moment, and they have a bowl of waxworms in the tank at all times so they can eat as much as they want. I'll try offering them some water from an eyedrpper as i havent seen them drink from the water bowl yet. So you think the one in the first three pics is a male (i'm 100% sure about this after looking at the scales under the vent), and the one in the second pic is a female. And they are both of the same species, C.bicinctores? Thanks for the advice.

Dan.

I was talking about the first three, Duh don't even know where the 4th came from , I'm going MAD, LOL Oh well, forgive me, Farm Boy?

AHhhhhhhhahhaha you've got to I'm KINKY'S MOM

So Yeah, Dan, ya have to beef them up ! And they will look Great

Eve