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Thankyou everyone who responded to the patternless albino string. >>>more

RedQuake Jan 09, 2004 05:05 PM

Yes i was asking because i didn't know for sure. I have a patternless female and a tremper albino female and was wondering if i could produce the patternless albino.

If i breed each of the girls to normal males (different ones) then take the babies and mate them is there a chance i could come out with some PA's? My original plan was to match up geckos of the same morph (blizzard X blizzard, patternless X patternless etc) but i figured i'd start with what i have instead of going out to get more males. I have a normal male and a blizzard male and with the 5 girls i'm sure those two boys will be happily busy hehehe.

Thanks again for all of your responces. I have a better understanding of the process now

Red
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

Replies (5)

Finnigan Jan 09, 2004 05:46 PM

"If i breed each of the girls to normal males (different ones) then take the babies and mate them is there a chance i could come out with some PA's?"

No, and here's why:

Patternless Female x Normal = All normal looking, het for patternless

Albino female x Normal = All normal looking, het for albino.

Het for patternless x het for albino = (each egg has the following odds)

25% Normal
25% Het. Patternless,
25% Het. Albino,
25% Het. Albino, Het. Patternless,

But because they all look normal, you can't tell who's het for what and who's normal.

If you want to speed up you process a bit, buy a male who's either het or showing one of your traits.

As for the discussion ... keep it coming ... this is an intriguiging discussion.

Joel

PS: Check out www.geneticswizard.com ... a great tool for things like this.

Yes i was asking because i didn't know for sure. I have a patternless female and a tremper albino female and was wondering if i could produce the patternless albino.

If i breed each of the girls to normal males (different ones) then take the babies and mate them is there a chance i could come out with some PA's? My original plan was to match up geckos of the same morph (blizzard X blizzard, patternless X patternless etc) but i figured i'd start with what i have instead of going out to get more males. I have a normal male and a blizzard male and with the 5 girls i'm sure those two boys will be happily busy hehehe.

Thanks again for all of your responces. I have a better understanding of the process now
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2.3 Leopard Geckos
1.1 Ball Pythons
0.1 Okeetee Corn Snake
1.0 Blair's Phase Gray Banded Kingsnake

RedQuake Jan 10, 2004 12:05 AM

Ok i see, thankyou. I have wanted to get a male patternless to pair up with Lily anyways but right now the room isn't available for more geckos lol What i might be able to do is breed Lily to Bronx, my male blizzard...the breeder i them all from said he is a possible het patternless.....i think. Man my memory sucks!!! LOL I think i wrote it down somewhere but he is defineltly het for something. My male Boo might also be a possible het but she didn't know for sure if he was one of hers cause i got him from an exotic store she usually uses when she has an overstock of babies.

The only way for me to know is to start the breeding process. This should be very exciting

Red

>>
>>No, and here's why:
>>
>>Patternless Female x Normal = All normal looking, het for patternless
>>
>>Albino female x Normal = All normal looking, het for albino.
>>
>>Het for patternless x het for albino = (each egg has the following odds)
>>
>>25% Normal
>>25% Het. Patternless,
>>25% Het. Albino,
>>25% Het. Albino, Het. Patternless,
>>
>>But because they all look normal, you can't tell who's het for what and who's normal.
>>
>>If you want to speed up you process a bit, buy a male who's either het or showing one of your traits.
>>
>>As for the discussion ... keep it coming ... this is an intriguiging discussion.
>>
>>Joel
>>
>>PS: Check out www.geneticswizard.com ... a great tool for things like this.
>>
>>
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Crested Gecko Zeek:1.0
LEOS: Boo: 1.0 normal , Bronx & Nala: 1.1 blizzard,
Lily: 0.1 patternless, Abby: 0.1 albino, Zoe: 0.1 reduced pattern, Dot: 0.1 hypo
Chip: 1.0 papillion (small dog)

geckocrazy Jan 09, 2004 06:54 PM

I was wonder the same thing. For example i have a male hypo tang 66% het for patternless lv albino. (how do u get 66% het)I'm breeding him with a hypo tang female and a pat. female. Will i ever get a pat lv albino? Or what will likely happen?
Bryan

roi3in Jan 09, 2004 08:03 PM

here ya go..
this will explain genetics much better
http://www.serpwidgets.com/cornsnakes/Genetics/genetics.html

and here is a "cheat" LOL i love this site.... helps ya if you dont know genetics very well or you dont want to have to figure out the punnett square however the calculator doesnt work for possible hets but i think it might explain it
http://www.geckogenetics.com/
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-robin struck
Geckoheads And Geeks

geckocrazy Jan 09, 2004 11:46 PM

n/p

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