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Diapause or infertile

John D. Jan 09, 2004 11:20 PM

One of my veilds laid a clutch on Oct. 14th. It is her (and my) first clutch. I placed them on moist fine vermiculite and put them up for incubation at room temps. After a few days I thought i would like to candle a few to see what they looked like. They glowed yellow and could find a 1/16 inch spot of light red. It's been almost 3 months. None of the eggs have molded or colapsed, but I can't see any change when I candle them. They are no longer the bright white they were when I dug them up, but I really attribute that to the vermiculite more than anything else. Ive talked to the breeder I got them from and he's never candled his.

I cut into 2 the other day and they acted like they were under pressure, both squirting out a milky white liquid, nothing I could say was a yolk or a clear egg white,no developing mass I could identify, but no odor either. I read in one of my books that immediately upon laying, the eggs were supposed to be suffused with veins, and in another book I read that you would know when diapause ended because you would see red in the eggs as blood cells started to be produced. Which is it, and what might be going on? She looks ready to lay her next clutch next week, and would like to know what I should look for for fertile eggs.

Thanks,
John

Replies (5)

jcunitz Jan 09, 2004 11:26 PM

the general rule with eggs is if they are infertile then they will mold within about 1-2 weeks. i have candled my eggs throughout the incubation process, and have only recently noticed any major change. they were laid 8/25, and have changed considerably. i also have a clutch that was laid in october, and they are the same as they started out.

check out this article.
eggs laying to hatching

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groups.msn.com/JEChameleons
1.2 Chameleo Calyptratus
1.1 Furcifer Pardalis (Diego Suarez)
0.1 Furcifer Pardalis (Nosy Be)
0.0.1 Chameleo Melleri

John D. Jan 10, 2004 11:46 AM

Thanks, that makes me feel much more secure! I guess I can wait 2 more months if that's what it takes before I can see anything going on! (I have read and re-read that article before, very thorough!) By the way, how do you get the information on what you keep to appear at the bottom? (groups?)

John D.

lele Jan 10, 2004 02:11 PM

John,

Just above your post (and on main page) you will see User Prefs. There you can do a few things as well as what you want in your signature - save it and you're set!
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

John D. Jan 12, 2004 11:43 PM

Thanks, I just thought that would put my name on it at the end!

John D.
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3.0.1 Blackthroat Monitors: Clawed, Claudio, Dekembe, Mbasa
3.7 Leopard Geckos (normals, albinos, hypos, tangs, blizard)
1.3.1 Fattails: Valrhona, Godiva, and 3 to be named laters
1.2 Veilds: Mahmud, Umayma, Aliya
1.1 Oustallet's: Gascar, Maddie
1.0 Graceful: Mufasa
1.0 Ambanja Panther: Maximillian
All of these (and a few more) are in my 4th grade classroom!

lele Jan 13, 2004 08:40 AM

you're only in 4th grade? LOL! just kidding! I assume you are a teacher? The kids must LOVE having them there! How do you manage weekends and holidays? Just curious.

Looks like you put some thought into naming!

lele & Luna

>>Thanks, I just thought that would put my name on it at the end!
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>>John D.
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>>3.0.1 Blackthroat Monitors: Clawed, Claudio, Dekembe, Mbasa
>>3.7 Leopard Geckos (normals, albinos, hypos, tangs, blizard)
>>1.3.1 Fattails: Valrhona, Godiva, and 3 to be named laters
>>1.2 Veilds: Mahmud, Umayma, Aliya
>>1.1 Oustallet's: Gascar, Maddie
>>1.0 Graceful: Mufasa
>>1.0 Ambanja Panther: Maximillian
>>All of these (and a few more) are in my 4th grade classroom!
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

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