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Millionpoundbomb Jan 11, 2004 10:38 AM

I read the article by Mark Bayless, very good. I just wanted to know if there was any online information on the conservation and captive care. I also wanted to know how many are left in the wild.

Also, from people that have had them or have them. Are they good monitors? I am looking to one day acquire a hatchling and handle it alot to make it pretty mellow, if this is possible. I would love to see pics if anyone has any.
Thanks in advance.
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Starkey
2.2 Colombian Boa Constrictors
1.1 Amazon Tree Boas
1.1 Taiwan Beauty Snakes
1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
0.0.1 White's Tree Frog
Mystic Eye

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Millionpoundbomb Jan 11, 2004 10:44 AM

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Starkey
2.2 Colombian Boa Constrictors
1.1 Amazon Tree Boas
1.1 Taiwan Beauty Snakes
1.0 Jungle Carpet Python
0.0.1 White's Tree Frog
Mystic Eye

rsg Jan 11, 2004 12:25 PM

I cancelled my subscription to Reptiles and haven't read the article by Bayless so I can't comment on it.

I keep 16 or so species of monitors and dumerils are my favorites. It could be because they were the first monitor I have ever kept, but I still really dig them.
Their care is similar to that of any indo monitor and there is plenty of information available on line.

One bit of advice, handling baby monitors is very stressful for them. Dumeril's are a very calm species that will typically grow into calm, inquisitive adults without a lot of handling.

Good Luck
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FR Jan 11, 2004 01:47 PM

What do you different with indos then you do with other species?

Also, are the girls for sale? have they been wormed? Nice neonates U got there. F

rsg Jan 11, 2004 05:20 PM

butthead.
You know I don't like to talk about what I do on the forums.
Anyways.....
I give the indos a larger water container, softer substrate (they like to wiggle), logs and/or half logs, slightly higher ambient temps.
Subtle little things really. Of course some aussie species need large water containers and some indos will use harder substrate, but you get the idea.

The girls are my favorite things in the world. Although the bigger one will turn 14 in March and is starting to huff and tail whip, the small one still loves me but she can get a little nippy.
Wife has their husbandry down perfect, so they don't have a problem with parasites.

Do you do anything different with your indos?

FR Jan 11, 2004 06:18 PM

I do about like you, with two minor exceptions. I do not consider what country they come from. For instance, argus, are like Ozzie gouldi complex and do mangroves from oz require different stuff then ones from indo.

I give them both the same range of temps. But as far as substrates, and water, I am with you.

Here where we have an abundance of heat, I have experienced events where the building became very hot. I experienced the wetland monitors where felled by the heat that did not bother the arid land monitors. Thats a bummer, hey, cheers F

rsg Jan 11, 2004 07:12 PM

Yeah, I wiped out a group of rudi's when I was away on business and things got too hot.
I try and look at them by habitat (what I know of it). Forest type monitors are kept one way, etc. Then I adjust depending on how they are doing.
I had an argus in the dumeril's cage at one time, the argus spent more time climbing around than the dums do.
Go figure.

BTW, if I don't catch you later tonight, I need a full box of hoppers (regular box with 4 plastic boxes in it), the breeding loan sounds good to me, and we should try to work out a deal for all of your hatchling pils.
Give Virg a kiss for me. Hahahahahaha!

mkbay Jan 11, 2004 04:25 PM

HI,
Thanks for the nice comments about my article. I agree with rsg on handling hatchlings, and also stopped my subscription to reptiles many years ago...the article in reptiles originally had foot-notes and citations but Reptiles does not like to put those in there - they tell me the audience doesn't care about such things, and it takes up print space.

Sometimes, a Varanus can be docile without handling it, with time...and handling is stressful to them. An analogy: ask Fay Wray when Kong (1933) snatched her...I bet she would have sh$t on herself if that film had been non-fiction!

cheers,
mbayless

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