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today i received two Indonesian Garter Snakes and i don't know their sex. i'm hoping someone can help me out. here are the measurements for the snakes.
snake 1:
total length= 17 1/2"
tail length= 4 3/4" (maybe 5/8"

snake 2:
total length= 21"
tail length= 5 1/2"

any input would be appreciated. also, at what size do garters usually start breeding? i don't know the snakes age. thanks.

here's a picture of snake 1

That one looks male to me.
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Andy Maddox
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Houston Herp Key
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yea, that's what i was thinking. i'll try to get a better picture of the other one soon. thanks!

snake 2

snake 2 again

It might be called a garter snake but I have never heard of thamnophis in indonesia.Do you know the latin name?

Xenochrophis vittatus or Natrix vittatus. they were sold as garter snakes. i know nothing about garter snakes. i thought they were neat and traded a few emperor scorpions for them.

i don't know anything about these snakes really. they were being fed crickets at the pet shop. as soon as i got them home they immediately took a pinkie each. i'm going to feed them fish and pinkies. hopefully they'll do okay. any input about caring for them or sexing them is welcome. thanks.

If they are Natrix, that means they are somewhat closely related to the water and ribbon/garters of North America and the other snakes such as the european grass snakes and what not. Fish and mice should suffice. Not sure, but they could be rearfanged. Either way, I would try to run some searches on them and hopefully find someone that has some care info. Also tryin posting on the watersnake forum. Andy
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

thanks a bunch! i'll try that.