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What locality of pines are these?

thecaiman Jan 12, 2004 09:42 PM

Heres mom and two of her offspring she was collected gravid. Thanks

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Jason & Danica
Well, I'm off my rocker, I fell out of my tree, I've been standin' on shaky ground, There's no helping me, yeah, I can't remember my number, I can't remember your name
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thecaiman Jan 12, 2004 09:44 PM

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Jason & Danica
Well, I'm off my rocker, I fell out of my tree, I've been standin' on shaky ground, There's no helping me, yeah, I can't remember my number, I can't remember your name
I can't remember all the trouble I'm in, child....... Well, I'm insane(Ratt, Im Insane)

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KJUN Jan 12, 2004 10:03 PM

The babies look like typical southerns, but the mom looks like one of those that come from the eastern part of their range where they have a little black pine in them?? Maybe a little norther, but I doubt it. OR it could just be an OLD female that is darkenning up and looked more like the babies when she was younger. I still say Florida pine from POSSIBLY where they start to intergrade with blacks, but not necessarily.

KJ

Jcherry Jan 13, 2004 01:51 PM

If I was going to guess it would be from aroundthe Ocala area. As variable as they are even from central to south florida it is really hard to tell

John Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Cherryville Farms - Reptiles

epidemic Jan 13, 2004 03:05 PM

My parents have a vacation home in Ocala, FL and I have spent a great deal of time there.
While I have seen pink,pattern-less individuals in the wild, I have never witnessed one close to being that bright.
I have no clue as to what that could be personally, but I wouldn't rule out th epossibility of it being of Ocala, FL locale.

Jeff

Jcherry Jan 15, 2004 07:50 PM

Cool pink patternless that come from around there aren't they. I have several and really love them. I also have three normals from the same area that when bred to the pinks throw pink patternless also, that gene must really be prominent in that area. If you have any pics of them in the wild I would love to see them.

John Cherry
Cherryville Farms

Cherryville Farms- Reptiles

epidemic Jan 16, 2004 09:04 AM

Hi, John,

Now that's what we used to see in Ocala! Not normally that nice though, but that's pretty much right on the mark.
I'll be looking for some of your offspring from those, when they're available!

Thanks,
Jeff

epidemic Jan 16, 2004 11:04 AM

I forgot to mention, I never have taken photos of them in the wild. I never really carry a camera, though I suppose I should get into the habit of it.
I will be heading there for a week in March, I will take a camera along too, since I'll be traveling further south, to Homestead, and hope to locate some D. c couperi, while visiting the Homestead Air Force Base wildlife management area.
I was raised on that base, and used to catch more Couperi then Elaphe, though last time I was there, I only saw 4 in a one week period, whereas I used to see almost twice that on a good day.
By the way, how are those new P. d deppei? Any word on that P. d jani group yet?

Take care,
Jeff

kb Jan 15, 2004 08:39 PM

n/t

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