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For a Pacman Frog?
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
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5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
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*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

Moss is not really that good, because it can be swallowed during feeding and cause an impaction, which is not pretty. I would just use straight coco fibre bedding and that should be fine. If you kept it in such a way that your feedings are carefully controlled, and crickets were not allowed to hide in it and therefore become a target which could include moss, I might consider it. But it does harbor bacteria and moisture, and thus mold.
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*~Ginevive~*

HUH? That's so confusing because when I did my research, people are telling me to use moss because it makes them feel secure. How could they be impacted with just moss? I can understand that with pebbles and gravel but moss? Isn't it in the wild frogs accidentaly eat moss from time to time. What is the difference between coco fiber and moss?
Thank you for that info. It's such a drag because I already bought a 2 year supply of fluker moss and coco fiber is just not that attractive. It's BROWN! Isn't there a more colorful substrate I can use?
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

I never personally had a frog that got impacted frrom moss, but heather (who frequents this board and also the talkto_the frog boards) had it happen to onw of her frogs. I'll try to find a link to her post...
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*~Ginevive~*

One of her frogs died from moss impaction.
I think it talks about it in the post from dec. 20th, so you may have to scroll down a bit.
link

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*~Ginevive~*

They mentioned a lot of reasons why that frog died like bleaching the enclosure and the driftwood PLUS they are not even that sure if it is the moss that killed the frog. Moss is a plant and all naturale, I don't think it can harm a frog, of course, this is my first time so I wouldn't really know compare to you guys. I'm just going with my common sense here.
But thank you so much for all the help.
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

It is somewhat of a mess. I prefer either bed a beast for larger frogs, or paper towels for young sick frogs. Moss over bed a beast is quite attractive for landscaping, but it does allow feeder insects to get lost in the stuff, which could be bad news for your frog if they begin to breed. All of a sudden you have a load of crickets that need food, and the frog is right there and is somewhat helpless. Cricket bites can be somewhat nasty. I got a frog that had an infected cricket bite (before I bought it)...took antibiotic shots over a week or so to fix him back up. Andy
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

I tried looking for bed-a-beast but I can't seem to find one. How about if I put gravels (4-5 inches) under the moss and some over it so that way, the moss will be flattened, not messy and my frog can still burrow itself in the moss with few gravels. The insects would have a hard time hiding in the moss because it is now flat with gravels. how about that?
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

Gravel is never a good idea. Try also looking for eco earth or just simply expandable coconut husk (they are both the same as bed a beast). Even potting soil that has no added fertilizers (perlite, ect.) work well (used that for a while). But the soil is def. the way to go. It works extremely well to go.
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Andy Maddox
AIM: SurfAndSkimTx04
MSN: Poloboy32486@hotmail.com
Houston Herp Key
The Reptizone

Burgundy baby, With your blue eyed soul, You play the hits and I'm on that roll, Capricorn sister, Freddie Mercury, Jupiter Child cry

The gravel is big. It is no way that it can be swallowed by my frog. My frog is only less than 2 inches.
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

I work at a veterinary hospital and in 12 years we have necropsied three frogs (and we do not see that many frogs, so I would consider that a high percentage) that were impacted with moss. The moss you buy is NOT like moss in the wild. You can order Bed-a-Beast online. Do a google search and you'll find it.
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Stacey