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For a Pygmy Leaf chameleon?
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

Use peat moss...cheaper and that fluker stuff is bad for bacteria for some reason...I would never use any commercial substrates...

Just look at that calci-sand stuff..."and if your reptile eats it, it'll be good for him!" I would love to meet the inventor of that stuff and tell him to swallow a handful and ask him how he feels an hour later. Sand is sand. Moss is moss. Why pay more for something with a well-known brand name on it?
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Chris Vanderwees
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1.2.0 Green Basilisks
1.1.0 Crested Geckos
1.3.0 Veiled Chameleons
1.1.0 Corn Snakes
1.0.0 Tokay Geckos
0.0.1 California Kingsnakes
2.7.0 Leopard Geckos
0.1.0 Green Iguanas
1.1.0 Savannah Monitors

Sorry I sort of dropped the pygmy leaf cham thread below - we are so chatty I used Eco-earth for them, my anoles and my geckos. The leaf chams spend very little time on the substrate and if you keep it only moderately damp (this will also depend if you keep your plants in pots or plant directly) it will minimize any mold problems. Frankly, I have found the eco-earth to be extremely mold resistant. I had forgotten about a bucket of it -still VERY wet - for months! When I found it, it was still damp with absolutely no growth or smell.

A not about peat moss: it is a non-renewable resource (in OUR lifetime) and the coco-fiber products are a much more ecologically- friendly choice.

lele

>>For a Pygmy Leaf chameleon?
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>>1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
>>0.1 Python
>>1.0 Green Tree Boa
>>1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
>>5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
>>3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
>>1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
>>0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
>>1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
>>0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
>>1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
>>1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
>>1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
>>0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)
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>>*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

Is 'eco-earth' a coco-fiber product? I've found 'bricks' of coco-fiber (just add water) at my local 99 cent store.
There's a chain locally in So Cal of 99 cent stores. Can't remember the name, but they have some good 'herp' related products:
Instant mashed potato (for fruit fly culturing)
baker's yeast (ff culture)
various disposable 'tupperware' products
coco-fiber bricks
potting soil
small plants
I'm sure there's more, just hasn't crossed my mind...
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Victor Gomez
gomezvi.tripod.com/sdchamkeepers/
gomezvi@yahoo.com

yup - it is. I think bed-a-beast, jungle earth are some others. I got a 3-pack of eco-earth for $4. If you buy it at a PetCo-type store it's almost that much/brick! If the coco-fiber at the store is not treated then - go for it. If it's made for plants, as opposed to herps, you may want to be sure that it is not treated in any way, which it may well be (pesticides, fungicides, etc.)

We have those store, too but I am so infrequently at a mall (I am in rural NH) that I never think to go to one - but maybe my next "mall" trek I will check one out!
Eco-Earth

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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

i've kept dart frogs on it for five years...never a problem...the original 5 dart frogs are still hopping around catching fruitflies and pinheads

"rural NH".....isn't that an oxymoron???

LOL!!!!

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Raf

1.2 Jacksons Adults (Frank, Patty, Lucille)
0.0.1 Jackson's baby (George, R.I.P. 11/17/2003)
1.1 Nosy Be's (Mars and Roja)
1.1 Veiled - No Names Yet
0.1 Adult Sulcatta (POOPIE,I bought it from Victor at Kobey's in SD)
0.0.2 Baby Sulcattas (frick and frack)
1.0 Home's Hingeback Tortoise (SPEEDY, From Victor as well)
1.2 Red ear slider babies (Hingis, Dingis and Dorkus)
0.0.1 3 toed box turtle - No Name Yet
0.0.1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle - No Name Yet
1.0 Red Siberian Husky (Harley)
0.1 Black Lab (Krissy)
0.1 English Bulldog (Alice)
0.1 Blue Merle Great Dane (Wednesday)
Saltwater Fish and Inverts too

haha! but didn't you mean redundant? Oxymoron is contradictory and I ASSUME you meant that all of NH is rural (which it isn't but much of it is - we are the second most forested state!)

anyway, you are probably just jealous that when I look out my window I am looking at a river, wildlife, trees and other wonderful nature!

just teasing

>>"rural NH".....isn't that an oxymoron???
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>>LOL!!!!
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>>Raf
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>>1.2 Jacksons Adults (Frank, Patty, Lucille)
>>0.0.1 Jackson's baby (George, R.I.P. 11/17/2003)
>>1.1 Nosy Be's (Mars and Roja)
>>1.1 Veiled - No Names Yet
>>0.1 Adult Sulcatta (POOPIE,I bought it from Victor at Kobey's in SD)
>>0.0.2 Baby Sulcattas (frick and frack)
>>1.0 Home's Hingeback Tortoise (SPEEDY, From Victor as well)
>>1.2 Red ear slider babies (Hingis, Dingis and Dorkus)
>>0.0.1 3 toed box turtle - No Name Yet
>>0.0.1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle - No Name Yet
>>1.0 Red Siberian Husky (Harley)
>>0.1 Black Lab (Krissy)
>>0.1 English Bulldog (Alice)
>>0.1 Blue Merle Great Dane (Wednesday)
>>Saltwater Fish and Inverts too
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

Truly. Wish I could look out my window at such natural splendor.
I'm stuck in boring old So Cal. Can't even keep my chameleons all day during winter. Only 6 or eight hours a day. And cold! Dropped to almost 45 last night. BRRRR!!! (hehehe)
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Victor Gomez
gomezvi.tripod.com/sdchamkeepers/
gomezvi@yahoo.com

uh, cold you say?? it is -10 degrees, yes, that IS a minus sign! Last night with the windchill it got to -50 BELOW zero last night in some parts of the state - not where I am, we were at a balmy -25 below 0 - LOL!!!! Now, this truly is not typical even for here. it has been an extremely cold winter so far and -thank goodness no power outages (yet). I don;t know how I woul dkeep everyone warm! I'd have to get Luna, the J sisters, Gaia, Tia and the felines all cuddled into bed to stay warm! haha!

but, yes, it is very pretty here
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

I remember one time, it was really cold here in NY and my heather pad for my tortoises aren't working so I cuddled them all in my bed so they get warm. Good thing they didn't pooped.
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1.0 Garter Snake (Evola)
0.1 Python
1.0 Green Tree Boa
1.0 Green Iguana (Shhhhhhhh)
5 (unknown sex) Read eared Slider (Ganbu, Shoty, Aulfayan, Phlegm, Lucky, n/a)
3.3 Malayan Box Turtle
1.0 Pyxidea Mouhotti (Driffy)
0.1 Diamond back Terappin (Genbu)
1.0.2 Sulcatta (Darien Wings, Tblt, and Damaso)
0.1 Red Foot(Elsa 140)
1.0.2 Alligator Snapping Turtle (Kilthum, Leudo, and Nanazusa)
1.0 Skinnypig (Poppolochrois)
1.1 Rabbit (Bugs, n/a)
0.1 Albino Cranwell's horned Frog (Mandella Banana)

*Fishes, insects, Dogs, Cats, and Birds are not included.

uhhh..ummm....yeah...redundant....that's what I meant.

LOL!!
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Raf

1.2 Jacksons Adults (Frank, Patty, Lucille)
0.0.1 Jackson's baby (George, R.I.P. 11/17/2003)
1.1 Nosy Be's (Mars and Roja)
1.1 Veiled - No Names Yet
0.1 Adult Sulcatta (POOPIE,I bought it from Victor at Kobey's in SD)
0.0.2 Baby Sulcattas (frick and frack)
1.0 Home's Hingeback Tortoise (SPEEDY, From Victor as well)
1.2 Red ear slider babies (Hingis, Dingis and Dorkus)
0.0.1 3 toed box turtle - No Name Yet
0.0.1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle - No Name Yet
1.0 Red Siberian Husky (Harley)
0.1 Black Lab (Krissy)
0.1 English Bulldog (Alice)
0.1 Blue Merle Great Dane (Wednesday)
Saltwater Fish and Inverts too

>>uhhh..ummm....yeah...redundant....that's what I meant.
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>>LOL!!
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>>Raf
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>>1.2 Jacksons Adults (Frank, Patty, Lucille)
>>0.0.1 Jackson's baby (George, R.I.P. 11/17/2003)
>>1.1 Nosy Be's (Mars and Roja)
>>1.1 Veiled - No Names Yet
>>0.1 Adult Sulcatta (POOPIE,I bought it from Victor at Kobey's in SD)
>>0.0.2 Baby Sulcattas (frick and frack)
>>1.0 Home's Hingeback Tortoise (SPEEDY, From Victor as well)
>>1.2 Red ear slider babies (Hingis, Dingis and Dorkus)
>>0.0.1 3 toed box turtle - No Name Yet
>>0.0.1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle - No Name Yet
>>1.0 Red Siberian Husky (Harley)
>>0.1 Black Lab (Krissy)
>>0.1 English Bulldog (Alice)
>>0.1 Blue Merle Great Dane (Wednesday)
>>Saltwater Fish and Inverts too
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta