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Met up wit Raul in Queens...I got the 4 leos he was talkin about

jerzreptile21 Jan 13, 2004 08:39 PM

Today after school, I headed to Jamaica Queens which was like a 3 hour trip on train . But it was worth it. He gave me one adult hypo male [ not that bright],a normal which seems to be pregnant and 2 albino babies. One of the babies, has had his tail detached and is real skinny and fragil lookin'. Seems like hes gona die.And he has skin he didnt shed yet on the tip of his nose.As of now i got him in a plastic container wit the humity up so i can help him shed the rest.!! I got a few questions...Can i leave the pregnant one in wit the hypo male which is an adult also ? And how can i make the little one eat ? Raul told me he doesnt eat at all.

now i have
2 males - Yoshi & Blitz
2 too young to sex albinos
2 female - Laly & Queens

Please help me out
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Jae from Jer'z
I have Yoshi and Laly . A Pair of juveniles.

Replies (9)

angelawina Jan 13, 2004 08:53 PM

I personally would seperate the two adults, because mating again would be hard on the female. There should be a three month resting period between mating. Make sure you feed her as much as she will take, maybe even a pinkie or two!
With the baby, make sure his temps are up, because cold reptiles don't like to eat. The higher temps help them digest their food. Try usng a product called "Repti-aid" made by fluckers. I swear by the stuff.It's a dry powder that you mix with warm water, and syringe feed your sick little animals! Good luck and keep us updated!!!
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2.2.0 Leopard Geckos (2)shct, (1) normal,(1) rainwater albino
1.0.0 Betta
2.1.0 Whites Treefrogs
0.0.1 Green Treefrog
1.0.0 Red eyed Treefrog
1.0.0 Huge Black Cat
0.1.0 Cocker Spaniel
0.1.0 Brittany

geckocrazy Jan 13, 2004 09:09 PM

sorry Dumb ? but when do you know to stop feeding them and how ofton do u feed it to them?

jerzreptile21 Jan 13, 2004 09:09 PM

Alright ima try to get her to eat pinkies ina week or so.I dont think ima be able to feed the baby Rept-Aid cuz i dont think anywhere around here sells that. But ill try to look for it.. Ima try wax worms if not meat baby food mixed wit gatorade as i read in a message posted earlier.
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Jae from Jer'z
1.0.1 tremper albinos [juveniles]
0.2.0 albino [babies]
1.0.0 hypo [adult]
0.0.1 normal [seems pregnant]

Pspguy Jan 14, 2004 09:19 AM

Listen, I have bottles of this stuff lying around. As some of the old timers around here know, even though I don't post as much as I used to, I work and manage a pet store. I can send you a bottle UPS in no time flat. I don't agree with feeding the sick leos dog food or gatorade. This stuff is made of the vitamins they need, and is good for them. Just email me your address and I'll send you some, no charge. I would hate to see you feeding your leo some odd junk just because the pet stores in your area are lame

Jeff

jerzreptile21 Jan 14, 2004 11:37 AM

Thanks alot ~!@ I dont have ur email to send it to so im jus gona post my email on here. -> jerzeslugger@aol.com
email me and im sure to reply..but in the mean time what shud i do while im waitin..i mean i just got him yesterday and i kno geckos take a while to get used to the enviroment to eat..

thanks again
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Jae from Jer'z
1.0.1 tremper albinos [juveniles]
0.2.0 albino [babies]
1.0.0 hypo [adult]
0.0.1 normal [seems pregnant]

jerzreptile21 Jan 13, 2004 09:18 PM

I dont think my pregnant female is going to go after a pinkie. Even tho i just got her today, Dont females stop eatin when their pregnant. Her tail is real fat ! She will live off the fat on her tail, if she doesnt eat.Just like a camel does off his hump. I only have one 20L gallon tank ima have to put a piece of cardboard or suttin to divide the female and male.
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Jae from Jer'z
1.0.1 tremper albinos [juveniles]
0.2.0 albino [babies]
1.0.0 hypo [adult]
0.0.1 normal [seems pregnant]

aliceinwl Jan 14, 2004 03:11 AM

Female leos will eat heavily while gravid, they don't usually go off food until right before they lay. I have had some that never stop eating.

Have you tried offering the baby gutted crickets with forceps? This is how I get most of my stubborn hatchlings feeding. Also, make sure you have him set up in his own tank in case he has something contagous.

-Alice

jerzreptile21 Jan 14, 2004 01:57 PM

with forceps ? whats that ??
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Jae from Jer'z
1.0.1 tremper albinos [juveniles]
0.2.0 albino [babies]
1.0.0 hypo [adult]
0.0.1 normal [seems pregnant]

schoolfield Jan 13, 2004 09:41 PM

Some suggestions - specifically for care of the little one:

1.) Separate. Just in case his lack of eating is attributable to being "sick."

2.) There are two ways to feed a gecko that won't eat: get a plastic syringe - without the needle (you can find them at Walgreens or Eckerds), and fill with roughly .5 to 1.0 cc's of substance (gatorade, soft dog food, etc). You can either carefully place a tiny amount of "stuff" onto the gecko's snout and wait for the animal to lick it up. However, this usually leads to only tiny amounts being consumed and does require a lot of time. If that doesn't work, holding the gecko in a cupped hand so that his head is sticking out and he can't move his body, gently rub his mouth until he gets really pissed and opens up. Have the syringe ready - and put into his open mouth. Be careful as you dispense the liquid or food from the syringe. If done too forcefully, it might go into his lungs if not swallowed properly. This is also very stressful on the gecko, and you will want to live him alone once this process is complete. Keep careful records of how much he "eats" and when. I would recommend starting to try to feed him 2 - 3 times a day. Especially if he's really thin. Also, after the "force feeding" and after some relaxation time, try putting him in a small plastic carrier with at least two or three crickets that have been dusted with calcium. Leave in there no more than 20 - 30 minutes. Watch carefully - don't want to add any additional undue stress. Over time, hopefully, he will start eating live food again.

2.) The Reptivite is something that can be purchased at any PetCo, PetsMart, any local pet store that sells reptiles, etc. It's very handy to have, it's only about $7 - $10 for a huge packet of powder and comes with very specific instructions. In order to administer correctly, though, you will have to know the weight of the animal.

3.) Other options for "forced substance" - cricket cocktail: $10 worth of crickets, some Ensure, some calcium powder and some Reptivite. Blend until smooth. Take out what you will be feeding for the next day or so - freeze the rest in a standard ice cube tray. Each tiny cube should provide at least two feedings. Can be gently thawed out by placing into a glass and then the glass is placed into warm water. Will also allow you to break off in small amounts only what's needed. Be forewarned, though, my tiny guy really hates this stuff.

4.) VET, VET, VET. I recently spent $120 total on three rescues, none of which are going to make it. But, it was about commitment for me. If at all possible, it's critical to get a fecal sample. In my case, especially with the last little one left, Pablo, the fecal samples have all been too dry or too old. He's getting to the point where he's going so infrequently. So, even if you can't afford to put a lot into the little one, spend the $20 - $30 to get a fecal done. His lack of eating after all could be more than stress induced... and he was free. If you can afford to keep, you can afford the vet bill....

5.) I'm trying to think of what else... like I said, I've recently been to two different vet visits... Mixing the Reptivite with the gatorade was recommended by the vet. And make sure that you are practicing good husbandry - change the towel as soon as he poops, watch the humidity, offer a big enough bowl for him to soak in completely, offer a hide, temps are warm enough, etc.

6.) Know when to let go. In my case, each departure is a tragedy - thank god for my husband's support. I have to be strong enough to not let my emotions get the better of me, though - if Pablo isn't better by Sunday, I will have to put him down. I don't want to, I want to pray for the best, but sometimes, the best isn't going to come. And, it's better to humanely say good bye when necessary, then watch a creature suffer from starvation or from sickness....

I sincerely hope this advice helps. I did not intend to write a dissertaion, but I feel very compelled regarding this subject. I should be studying Calculus right now, instead, I'm painfully upset about my dying little one - no one was able to identify what the hell is wrong with him. And do believe me, I have tried.

So good luck. I would be willing to exchange contact info - in the instance where I could possibly help you. Again, none of this is "professional" advice, just advice from someone who really cares about these creatures.

- D

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