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Last weekend at the White Plains show I purchased 4 orange galacs. 3 of them are doing great, eating alot of fruit flies and springtails. The last one doesnt seem to eat and looks quite skinny. Right now I have the 3 that are eating housed in a half ten gallon with paper towels, water dish, hiding places and plant leaves. I have isolated the skinnier one in a 6" x 12" plastic container with the same materials. The ambient temperature in the room is between 75 and 80 degrees. Is there anything that I can do to help out this frog further? I realize that in nature some froglets dont make it, but I would really hate to loose a frog.

Thanks,

rjm

First, call the breeder. A frog that hasn't eaten since you got it - is a problem. I would let them know now so that if it dies you could possibly get a replacement (in my opinion - should- get a replacemant)

Unfortunately, you see this alot with frogs sold at young ages. They aren't old enough to be identified as problem frogs by the breeder. Personally, I won't buy frogs less than 2-3 months old due to this. By the time a frog reaches over two months it's either eating or the breeder should know that it's a problem frog or its dead.

Here's what has worked for me on frogs I've morphed with the same problem: Keep frog isolated and warm. Pedialyte baths of half hour or more every night until it starts to feed regularly. Make sure pedialyte is at same temp as frog. Keep a constant food source available, but not so much to stress the frog. I've had to do this as long as two months before. Not sure fire but it usually works for me.

yeah I know - long post

Donn

I have already emailed and left a message with the breeder of these frogs. As it is a well known and reputable supplier I dont think I should have any problems. I have already started the warm baths last night with diluted gatorade ( there were no stores selling pedialyte open in the area). As the fruitflies that I have are the larger variety, would it be ok just to supply the frog with springtails until it starts eating more regularly.

rjm

Yeah, I'd go with springtails and D. melanogaster when you can get them. Many times smaller food will get these guys feeding. This may solve the problem right away. I've had juvenile and adult frogs that simply won't take D. hydei.
As for the pedialyte, did you look in the baby food section? This is usually where it is stocked. If not there, try the drug store.

Donn

Oh, I meant due to the time and where I live, stores that carry pedialyte werent open.

rjm

If you can get any I have heard that they can not resist termites.
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Well I just got home from work and found that he didnt make it. I am calling the seller now to discuss it with them.

rjm

Sorry to hear that. As most of us on this forum know from experience, sometimes these little frogs prove to be just too delicate to survive, despite even the best habitats and foods their keepers provide. Most breeders will be happy to compensate you for such an early loss, especially if the frog never really attempted to eat. Good luck with the rest of your frogs and don't be discouraged!
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Randy

Dont worry about it too much. One of my first darts at very little then ate nothing at all then died also. Hopefully the breeder can compensate you. sorry
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kungfu28181: My god. You are insane. -Mon Jun 30 21:41:05

The only frogs that I have lost were 2 azureus which I purchased from a dealer at a show, and I have heard of several others losing frogs from shows as well.

It is very possible that young frogs, especially those a bit disadvantaged to begin with, can not deal with the stress of being on display at a show; constantly being picked up and looked at, drastic changes in temperature from inside to outside, changes in light levels, etc. Realistically, having a frog shipped seems less stressful. If insulated properly, temperature will not change, and as far as the frog is concerned, the ordeal is just a long, bumpy night.

Then again, I've never had a frog shipped.

Just a few random thoughts.

To echo everyone else's comments, don't let this discourage you at all, it obviously had nothing to do with you.
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Tempe, AZ

3.0.1 D. imitator
3.2 D. leucomelas
1.2.1 P. terribilis (mint)
0.0.2 D. azureus
0.0.1 D. tinctorius (Alanis)
0.1 D. tinctorius (Brazilian cobalt)
0.0.4 D. auratus (Panamanian green and bronze)
1.1 M. madagascariensis
1.0 P. hypochondrialis

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Well I think its pretty much a crap shoot either way you purchase your frogs: buying them in person or getting them shipped to you is pretty much the same. When you purchase them in person you get to see and choose the actual frogs you are getting, on the other hand buying them "online" you get whatever the breeder feels like getting rid of. Unfortunately when I purchased the 4 galacs I only picked out 2 of the 4, I was paying for them while someone else was getting the frogs. Perhaps I would have chosen wiser ( Indy reference ) or my luck would have been the same. I think the best bet is to purchase your frogs from well known breeders ( Saurian, Black Jungle, Quality Captives, Fantasticus and others, I am sorry to those I left out )with proven track records and good references,not just cheap prices.

I realize that in nature not every baby survives whether it is genetics or just bad luck. When you purchase a froglet that is just about half an inch in size anything can happen. But when they do survive I feel like I accomplished something great in helping something so small and delicate make it.]

rjm