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Sean.....

RichH Jan 14, 2004 01:52 PM

The show has not aired yet Rich. It comes on tonite at 7:30pm ET.

I'm terrible during NFL Playoffs. Confused the show with some repeated airings of other Snake Wrangler shows that were repeated that AM.

A WC female? You never told me that in your emails. Can you tell me who found it, and when and where it was found? A picture would be nice too!

I thought I e-mailed you on that already. I either have fallen behind with e-mails or might be sending them to an incorrect addy as I also do not see any replies from you to any I have sent in the last few months about ANF.

I will get info. to you as well as a pic of her. She is a young one though (hatchling or yearling) that is a super difficult feeder. I recently put her in the cooler to see if that helps my feeding attempts with her when I resume feedings in March. If not I may actually release her back where she was found.

If you check out the link I provided, it tells you other showtimes. I think it airs again next Sunday at 9:30am and then again a week later at the same time.

I will watch the showing this Sunday.

I agree. I could watch an all day event just on kingsnakes in Florida if anyone ever did that. Not sure why most/all of these Snake Wrangler shows are only 30 minutes long. They should be at least one hour.

I have begun putting much effort myself in locating Kingsnakes in any region of NE Florida. It is very difficult and impossible for some to locate any these days. I'm sure I will get some e-mails from this post from people who will say it is easy but to date not one who has responded in the past has ever come up with a Duval County King for example.

There is something happening that is limiting their numbers that is more than just fire ants which many suggest could be the reason. With the number of southern hognose being found though increasing in areas that once were abundant with kings may lead credence of the contrary. With the increase of canebrakes showing up in many areas once heavily inhabited by kings may be a sign that these kings are not just elusive, as others state, at this time but in limited numbers or in any numbers at all.

We have been hiking much through, Osceola, Ocala, Okefenokee, Paynes Prairie and the ANF with the hopes of planning increasingly more trips as time goes on. Unfortunately though herp numbers are declining and seeing any snake in the wild that is not DOR is becomming something to see.

Rich Hebron

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Sean Jan 14, 2004 06:16 PM

Hey Rich, I haven't received an email from you in a while. And I never got one about a WC female. When did you find it? And if you could, how did you find it? For some reason, all three WC males I have from the Apalachicola area are difficult feeders but I've gotten them to eat for the most part. If that female doesn't feed for you, I'd probably let her go as well. I know of someone here in Tallahassee who found a female this year and he started force feeding her almost immediately. He didn't provide any kind of hide space and kept her in a 10 gal (she was over 3 feet) with little water. She died not too long ago and the guy said he can't imagine what happened.

Anyway, you must have some kind of luck. You visited the ANF for the first time last year and so far you've told me you've found 3 getula in the ANF. I'd love to see some pictures.

RichH Jan 14, 2004 07:00 PM

Actually though, we spend several days there at a clip and have luckily had several people tell us where to spend our time. The current King was not found by me (just needed to be nice to some of the locals LOL).

The only living one I did personally come across was off a boardwalk around a specific lake we spoke of a while back. No pic on that one. The first one we ever came across was a DOR large adult right outside of Sumatra. We saw so many other snakes that week though as well. Must have been our lucky week as our last 5 day stay there in October brought us into very few snakes spotted(waters for the most part, a snake we did not see at all on our previous trip) but many various turtles.

Actually though, I am lucky when it comes to getting into contact with snakes and fish. I once found a scarlet king while bringing groceries into a friend's house. It was dark out and the scarlet was warming up right on his driveway. This though was a well populated area right in the heart of Jacksonville in an area many thought was devoid of scarlets. I could go on with a 26lb redfish I landed while whiting fish once as well as a 225lb blacktip while snapper fishing. Landing those two I would say yes, I was very lucky.

Yet, no luck in 3 years searching for Duval County Kings. Maybe you should spend sometime on this side of Florida and give me a hand LOL.

Rich

Sean Jan 15, 2004 06:15 AM

Rich, I do remember the live one you said you saw by the lake and the dor. I'm curious if you know when/where the WC female was found though. And if you know how it was found...on the road, under a log, etc. If you can't answer that here, please email me.

I'd love to get over towards Duval Co. and search for kings. I'd probably hit the area around the Okeefenokee Swamp though. Seems like it might be a better area to look for kings.

RichH Jan 15, 2004 02:41 PM

My favorite place. We only see kings on the GA side, never the FL side although all the drymarchon we have seen have been on the FL side, never GA. We use to hike all around that area for years.

Rich

Sean Jan 15, 2004 06:18 PM

Rich, I'm assuming you don't want to give any info here on that WC female King you say was found in the ANF. If you still have my email, could you let me know when, where, and how that king was found? That is if you know any of that info. Thanks.

RichH Jan 18, 2004 01:36 PM

Looks like you have not received my last 2 e-mails. I send them through here.

I will post a pic and update when I pull her from being cooled down in March inclusive of all the info. I have on her. She was though found in an area north of Sumatra.

Rich

electricbluescat Jan 15, 2004 11:23 PM

I have been to the okeefenokee swamp before its really an amazing swamp. So much wildlife and reptile habitat there.

justin becraft Jan 15, 2004 07:37 AM

I just moved to clay county a few months ago from Tallahassee (herped w/ Sean quite a few times) and plan on getting out alot this spring in duval county looking for kings. drop me line if your intested joining me. I've never really herped this area before.I've been into Jennings state forest a few times before it started to cool off and had a little luck(no Kings though). Only found a few pygmies and a racer. -Justin

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