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"I hatched this from a pair of normals..."

UK Pythons

You have got to tell us the story behind that, Paul. That snake is outstanding!

Jake

Incredible! Congrats, and keep us posted.

Will Leary
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Yes it's a cheynei. Here is another photo with a sibling. I purchased an aberrant male cheynei and hoped that it would prove genetic. I thought it would be recessive so I was very surprised to see these pop out. Any idea on a good name for this morph? I thought "granite" but there is already a granite recessive in Irian Jaya carpets.

UK Pythons

Congratulations! Do you have a pic of the abberent male cheynai?Keep us updated!

cheers
M.S

Here is a photo, he doesn't have the best colour but I have bred him to my best line of cheynei and I hope the offspring will be brighter.

UK Pythons

You mentioned in the first message that you hatched those from a pair of normals. So the aberrant male had nothing to do with the production of this wonder? Or am I confused. I'm just learning about Carpet Pythons, but anything to do with Genetics and I'm there since I just love the way genetics work!
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I was joking when I said I hatched it from a pair of "normals" as this is the line they use in the ball forum all the time. English humour at work...

You brits and your crazy spelling . . .

Jake

We are using ENGLISH, afterall (at least, most of us).
G

Ah, thanks for the clarification.

(and I'm not British, but I always have a keen sense of humour. Have my spell checker set to change it over to the american spelling, because I always spell it the British way.)

>>I was joking when I said I hatched it from a pair of "normals" as this is the line they use in the ball forum all the time. English humour at work...
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Ground Snakes
Kit, Kaboodle, Tantilla, Tantillas, Lightning, Kinkee, Maple
JCP
Dreamer
Rosy
Castle
Kings
Licorice, Bishop, Queenie, Jester, Tigris, Euphrates
Pandora, Phantom
Lady
Corns
Aphrodite, Athena, Hermes
Tiger
Amulet

This is just what the world needs-more carpet morphs! Why do they have to keep popping up in Europe, though? Do you guys have a much larger pool of carpets to work with than us over here? Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first proven mutation in cheynei, right?

I think the name granite is very appropriate. The first time I saw that snake, I thought it looked like a granite burm or a granite spotted python. I've never heard of the granite IJs before. Are they over there in Europe? If you don't want to use the name granite, what about "fine lined," "pin-striped," or maybe "compressed?"

Jake

Pin-striped could be cool for the first line produced that look like the "Palmerston highway" snake in the Barker book.

What do you think?
G

Do you mean like this? I have eggs incubating now so it will be interesting to see in a couple of weeks what will pop out.

UK Pythons

I meant more like the one with the thin stripes but that is a beauty nevertheless. Is it from Frank Schofield?
I have one of his stripey ones but it hasn't turned out anywhere near as nice as that.

G

She has some nice orangey spots on the sides but the rest of her yellow isn't much to write home about.

That has too much of a pattern to be considered granite. When I think of granite, I think of a snake where each adjoining scale is a different color...er, colour. lol

>>Yes it's a cheynei. Here is another photo with a sibling. I purchased an aberrant male cheynei and hoped that it would prove genetic. I thought it would be recessive so I was very surprised to see these pop out. Any idea on a good name for this morph? I thought "granite" but there is already a granite recessive in Irian Jaya carpets.
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The original owner suggested "Zebra" but I feel the colour doesn't fit the description. Whatever name we decide on I think this could be the first proven morph of cheynei and I am extremely excited about it. I have also bred striped cheynei but it seems to be a number of factors at play rather than a simple recessive or co-dom gene.

UK Pythons

>>The original owner suggested "Zebra" but I feel the colour doesn't fit the description. Whatever name we decide on I think this could be the first proven morph of cheynei and I am extremely excited about it. I have also bred striped cheynei but it seems to be a number of factors at play rather than a simple recessive or co-dom gene.
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Takes all kinds to make a World...

Yes, I've too seen striped cheynei...seems to be polygenic, moreso than a reliable genetic trait.

>>The original owner suggested "Zebra" but I feel the colour doesn't fit the description. Whatever name we decide on I think this could be the first proven morph of cheynei and I am extremely excited about it. I have also bred striped cheynei but it seems to be a number of factors at play rather than a simple recessive or co-dom gene.
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>>Yes, I've too seen striped cheynei...seems to be polygenic, moreso than a reliable genetic trait.
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>>>>The original owner suggested "Zebra" but I feel the colour doesn't fit the description. Whatever name we decide on I think this could be the first proven morph of cheynei and I am extremely excited about it. I have also bred striped cheynei but it seems to be a number of factors at play rather than a simple recessive or co-dom gene.
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Anthony Caponetto
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That's a very nice snake Paul!
Cheers,
Bas

>>"I hatched this from a pair of normals..."
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>>"I hatched this from a pair of normals..."
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is it jungle or coastal?

Mardy

Jungle, here is a photo of a sibling to the aberrant male.

eveyones views on the CP genetics? Or does it explain more? I just follow, or try, the posts on genetics about the jags and eveyones views on it. What does everythink of this?.....or is this totally off the mark.

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>>"I hatched this from a pair of normals..."
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"If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough."
- Mario Andretti

I've been waiting for years to see some other morphs pop up carpets other than the jag coastals especially in JCPs. That is one awesome cheynei. How much do you think you'll sell this morph for? Please...don't charge more than...say $1,000.lol. I've been waiting for YEARS!j/k.

My whole family(including me)thinks you should designate the morph as Zebra JCPs. Its pattern just looks...zebraish...lol.

What about the colour? Wouldn't you expect something more black and white?

What do you mean about the color? Sorry, but it doesn't make sense to me...lol. All that I know right now is that snake is an awesome snake. By the way, I saw the father. He's a nice one. Sure, not the best color, but he has a cool pattern. Personally, I'd love to see a black and yellow JCP with that pattern so good luck with that.

Houndstooth? Which is a pettern that comes in many colors including yellow and back.
pic of pattern

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Hi Paul,
The zebra cheynei is very nice.
Do you have many baby's?
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