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Brooks coloration/breeding question

BOBAFETT Jan 19, 2004 10:47 PM

Hi, im wondering, there are two naturally found colors for brooks right? The light ones that tend to come from higher drier places, and darker ones from lower wetter areas. Anyways, what coloration will be produced if i breed a light male to a dark female? Thats about it. And the two colors are just due to the habitat right, they are both still brooksis correct?

Dan

Replies (9)

Keith Hillson Jan 20, 2004 01:51 AM

There is only one and its a light colored animal. The dark ones are not considered Brooksi. If you breed a dark floridana to a brooksi floridana than you will have some animals that are inbetween. Its not a mutation so nothing odd would happen.

Keith

>>Hi, im wondering, there are two naturally found colors for brooks right? The light ones that tend to come from higher drier places, and darker ones from lower wetter areas. Anyways, what coloration will be produced if i breed a light male to a dark female? Thats about it. And the two colors are just due to the habitat right, they are both still brooksis correct?
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>>Dan
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rearfang Jan 20, 2004 07:54 AM

Actually the two color forms are white(ish) and yellow for the background color. The more yellow form is the most commonly found. The white ( or more Axanthic) origionated from small populations in the Everglades (one near Turkey Point). Most of the wild populations of Brooks have ben polluted by inbreeding with the "intergrade" form commonly known as the Florida King in the trade. Over developement of the region has made all South Florida Kings increasingly uncommon in the wild.

Frank
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Keith Hillson Jan 20, 2004 08:55 AM

I wasnt aware of this varation. Anybody breed this Turkey Point locality ? Any pics ?

Keith

>>Actually the two color forms are white(ish) and yellow for the background color. The more yellow form is the most commonly found. The white ( or more Axanthic) origionated from small populations in the Everglades (one near Turkey Point). Most of the wild populations of Brooks have ben polluted by inbreeding with the "intergrade" form commonly known as the Florida King in the trade. Over developement of the region has made all South Florida Kings increasingly uncommon in the wild.
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>>Frank
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>>"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."
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rearfang Jan 20, 2004 11:53 AM

The Turkey Point kings that I saw were notable in that not only were they white, but the pattern was black instead of brown. It is this strain that I beleave is reponsible for the Axanthic (and in some cases blue) Brooks you see on the market. The "wild type" Turkeys are rarely caught now and I don't know if anyone is specificly breeding them.
Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Brandon Osborne Jan 20, 2004 05:43 PM

Does this look anything like what you are talking about? I'm working with a few of these animals.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon Osborne Jan 20, 2004 05:47 PM

here's a yearling from the female above. I may keep a few more of these this year. They've turned out nice. The orange tends to disappear after 1-2 years.

Brandon Osborne

Brandon Osborne Jan 20, 2004 05:53 PM

I don't remember if this was a keeper or one that was sold. I should keep better track, but when computers crash, what do you do?

Brandon Osborne

rearfang Jan 20, 2004 07:28 PM

Look's like a cleaned up (less black) version of what I was referring to. The enevitable result of selective breeding. Very nice!

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Keith Hillson Jan 21, 2004 08:56 AM

I knew it would turn out like the adult female ! That holdabck you have is beautiful .

Keith
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