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UPDATE on my snake with the cold

DeadFrog Jan 21, 2004 08:57 PM

I know you all love animals at least as much as I do, so it's only fair I give and update to the situation.

I just took him to the reptile store earlier today and they told me he has very early upper respiratory infection (a cold). They said as long as I keep the extra heat on him he should be eating in about ten days. They told me that if it gets worse and there is foaming at the nose to take him to the vet, where (since I caught it early) he should be fine either way. If you put him to your ear you can hear the congestion in the chest, it's pretty cool (that you can tell easily when its sick). I was worried about his heightened activity levels, but they said that it's a good sign, and that on top of that, he is a healthy weight.

Seems like I caught it early, because I am pretty well in tune with my pets. Thanks for your help everybody, you guys are the best.
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Mark Martinez
University of Florida

Replies (9)

Keith Hillson Jan 21, 2004 10:15 PM

I hate to say this but usually its not that easy. Ive found with respitory problems more times than not you end up at the vet getting antibiotics. Try the heat and keep him on paper towel and very clean maybe that will work. If its me though I take him to the vet get some baytril in him and that should take care of it.

Keith
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agalinis Jan 22, 2004 12:18 PM

If you can hear the congestion that easily I'd get the snake to ta vet pronto or find someone with Baytril who knows how to dose your snake based on weight. Being at UF there are plenty of vets in that area that deal not only with herps but prefer to deal with snakes...I'd find one and get the snake on anti-biotics right away. Remember that snakes are master's of disguise, to include their illnesses, and that if you can hear the congested breathing my guess is that it's further along than the folks at the pet store told you.

Pet stores will tell you anything and now that they've told you what "they" would do if something happens to your snake then they can claim they told you what would have saved it - a cheezy but routine way pet dealers handle customers and a way to avoid any responsibility for selling you a snake that was already sick or exposed to a disease.

Like Keith said, it's not that easy. I'd clean the cage with at least a anti-bacterial soap, rinse it well, put nothing but paper towels and a small water dish for the snake to drink but not large enough for him to get in to and put a heating pad on low heat under at least half the cage; make sure there is good ventilation and maybe even drap something over the front so the snake doesn't feel stressed.

To hell with feeding him right now - if he is otherwise OK don't feed him until he's over this; the last thing he needs while fighting an infection is using energy digesting and then crapping out both feces/urine plus the bacteria in him inside the cage. If he's been eating well up to this point, he can easily go without food for a couple of weeks.

But I'd still find a vet who can tell you what to do in your situation; what I just said is a general assessment based on what I - and just about everyone else on here who's kept snakes for long periods - have experienced.

-John

DeadFrog Jan 22, 2004 07:24 PM

I didn't buy it from the pet store that gave me the advice.

Cleaning the cage sounds like a moot point, the snake is already sick. I just cleaned it three weeks ago very thoroughly.

Yeah, no feeding for now, I agree with that one.

He seems to be getting better, he's at the cool side of the cage ride now. That tells me that he's thermoregulating and that the added heat has at least met the threshold necessary for recovery.

I'll keep an eye out.

Thanks guys
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Mark Martinez
University of Florida

Keith Hillson Jan 23, 2004 06:30 AM

What ??? Just because he is on the cool side does not mean what you have just assumed. It may be too hot so thats the only place he can escape to. Im not saying thats the case but to make the assumption the heat is at a good healing temp is foolish. Also do clean the cage often Im not saying bleach it every other day but when a snake is sick secondary problems can arise because the snakes immune system is compromised. Im a bit confused as to your attitude about this snake. You came here for advice and the majority suggest a vet visit but you go with the Pet store guys "expert advice" to wait and see. Why even ask here at all ?

Keith
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agalinis Jan 23, 2004 10:39 AM

I'm a bit confused too - what Keith said is correct; don't clean the cage every day (unless it's fouled) but every three weeks? I do my best to clean mine once a week (basic spot cleaning etc, not a full blown "go to war" type cleaning) with healthy snakes, but a sick snake needs daily attention.

And the thermoregulating part...well, these are snakes and not frogs; I don't know your background but the folks on here are just trying to help out. Some pet stores/herp dealers are on the up and up, but 80% of the one's I've dealt with I check to make sure I'm not getting wooden nickels for change!

You came on saying we too cared about the health of our animals like you and then just dismiss most of the advice by people who know more than me and I've been doing this 10 years, and we are all just trying to help out. But go ahead and learn the hard way like most of us have and you can change your username to "DeadSnake."

-John

Chuck420 Jan 23, 2004 02:52 PM

heh its tru tho people told u nd told u to take it to a vet or raise the temps and still nothing, i wasnt going to reply to this but i was gonna say the same thing heh specialy bout changing your name to "DeadSnake" heh ne way i hope it pulls through, i hope u did take it to a vet and do not listen to pet stores, as people told u before the pet stores will tell u basicaly anything most dont know what they are talkign about.
next time i think u should listen a bit more to people when they try to help you out

Chuck

Chuck420 Jan 23, 2004 02:54 PM

ohh yeah and i think u really should clean the cage out, sick snakes...let alone sick animals need lots of care and with bacteria in the cage, it is going to be harder for it to heal...seirously i would trust the people on here they will give u good advice as they have been thru what you are going through and some of there snakes probaly lived thru it...

MartinWhalin1 Jan 23, 2004 01:12 AM

Earlier I suggested putting off the vet visit but if you can hear the congestion I'd go ahead and go to the vet.
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Martin Whalin

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DeadFrog Jan 23, 2004 07:19 PM

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Mark Martinez
University of Florida

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