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hogg isle boas still alive in the wild???....check out this link

mrcanada21 Jan 22, 2004 06:26 PM

I stumbled into while surfing. Looks compelling to say the least, any thoughts???

http://www.theoceanadventure.com/JSIE/JS27.html

Cheers

Replies (6)

H+E Stoeckl Jan 22, 2004 07:04 PM

The time when a species is extinct can never be determined exactly. Species who have been rated as extinct for decades showed up again.

Who will know when exactly the last Hog Island boa in the wild is vanished? One would need to search the whole island with several hundred volunteers to know for sure. The same is true for the Pearl Islands (Boa c. sabogae).

One is for sure: There are not many Hog Island boas left. And their number in captivity is also decreasing due to specialists who breed their beautiful females to some kind of commonplace crossbreeds in order to make a few bucks instead of getting nothing because of their inability to breed true ones.
Boa constrictor

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Beware of Commies and Mutts!

East TN Reptile Jan 22, 2004 10:06 PM

over & over & over. IF I was trying to make big bucks....why would I ONLY breed ONE female Hog Isle every other year? Why not mass re produce? I only breed the one girl. I've got 5 other adult females & 3 adult male Hypos. I figure since ya got EVERYTHING figured out.....you could answer this one easy.
If your refering to me.Dave @ East TN Reptiles...which you usually are........this time your wrong..again
I know where you stand on this,as so does ANYONE who reads your post. I also know your very repeative. Don't bother,I know bout informing "new comers" to do the right thing,the Herman way.
Why don't you get rid of your cross breed Hypos & use your " L O C A L boas to repopulate the wild that you have dipped your fingers into ?

herpconsultants2 Jan 23, 2004 05:01 AM

Personally I didn't see anything wrong with Hermann's post. He disagrees with you, and vice-versa. And yet, your post is a personal attack directed directly at one individual, which I believe is not allowed here?

The anti-hybridization argument is a valid one, and one which most zoo workers and conservationists would agree with. So it would be nice if those who go along with this idea aren't treated like freaks here. And yes, maybe it is worth constantly posting such messages, so that new comers can see both sides of the argument and make up their own educated decisions?

Mark Banczak Jan 23, 2004 01:34 PM

I learn a lot watching this forum from the sidelines and I'm very grateful for every bit of info I learn - that includes Hermann's posts. He's a knowledgable breeder with an honest viewpoint that I can respect. I learn a lot from all of you folks but the antagonism seriously detracts from this forum. I saw nothing in his post that was disrepectful to anyone or their view.
Just my 2 cents...

ps: It's terrific to see a pic of a wild Hoggie. Maybe in the future will stil see a few more.

cerberus Jan 23, 2004 08:42 AM

Mrcanada21, thats for sharing this link. I never thought I'd see a photo of a wild Hogg.
Herman, don't let them get to you. It's hard to be a naturalist in a world of muts and morphs.

craig k. Jan 24, 2004 11:19 AM

I just received an email back from the author of this article and sent him a link to this post. It was a wild animal not a "prop" so that is good news, he also wanted some more info so I included a link to gus' website. Thanks for posting. Craig Kade

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