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What is a large snake that does well in captive care but isn't a boa or a python???

cv768 Jan 23, 2004 01:59 PM

Boas and pythons are not permitted by our city bylaws and we were looking for a large snake---6-12 feet that will do well in captivity...
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Replies (6)

meretseger Jan 23, 2004 02:45 PM

That's a pretty silly law... anyway...
You're pretty much looking at larger colubrids. You could look at bull snakes, beauty ratsnakes, indigo snakes... that's all I can think of right now.
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meretseger Jan 23, 2004 03:35 PM

Chinese king rats, get pretty big and can be found CB. Tiger ratsnakes, Spilotes pullatus, are supposed to be the world's longest colubrid, but most ones you'll find are WC.
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"The serpent crams itself with animal life that is often warm and vibrant, to prolong an existence in which we detect no joy and no emotion. It reveals the depth to which evolution can sink when it takes the downward path and strips animals to the irreducible minimum able to perpetuate a predatory life in its naked horror."
Alexander Skutch

Larry D. Fishel Jan 23, 2004 02:46 PM

Hmmm... King Cobras seem to do OK if you can afford the food, but that probably doesn't help you much.

That's a good question. Blue Beauty Snakes get over 8 feet (I care for obe that's about 8 1/2) and seem to be pretty good eaters and easy to handle. Pine/gopher/bull snakes get up there too. I hear people have had good luck with Indigos and thier kin, but I haven't. I'm sure there are other big ones, but those are all that I'm familiar with.
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lolaophidia Jan 23, 2004 04:29 PM

Black Milksnakes also get pretty large (in addition to the Beauty Rats, Tiger Rats, Bullsnakes already mentioned). If money is no object... the Indigo family has some large memebers as well. Black Tail Cribos are probably the least expensive of the Indigo family and are pretty easy to care for based on my personal experience. They're not constrictors so you definitely want to feed pre-killed or frozen-thawed prey items.
I agree that the law seems pretty silly- considering that there are plenty of small boas and pythons out there (Childrens pythons for instance or Sand boas).

Lora

cv768 Jan 24, 2004 01:59 AM

what a stupid ass uneducated, childish, law!

I can't believe it but it's true right under the animal city by-laws...NO SNAKES UNDER THE FAMILY PYTHONADAE OR BOADAE or something like that...I'm kinda mad...since ball pythons that I've played with are the tamest animal in the world...I'd be amazed if anyone has ever been hurt by a sand boa!

oh well, whatcha gonna do?
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meretseger Jan 24, 2004 06:04 AM

Sand boas hurt people... but it's nothing a band aid can't take care of... 'Course, you could argue that they're family Erycinidae, and maybe win.
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Alexander Skutch

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