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Im PISSED!! Someone help me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Cindy1212 Jan 23, 2004 03:27 PM

Sorry for being rude peoples but i have a situation. In this month my oldest Frog Max died and my Parakeet Swift died as well. U might think y im posting here but last night my 3 turtles were happy and healthy looking. This morning I found that 2 of them(males) were dead under water. Wat i wanna no is y they died and im so sad that i think that ill stop typing right now. PLZ HELP!!!!!!!!!!

Replies (6)

erico Jan 23, 2004 03:53 PM

Did you have a power outage or heating system failure that may have chilled them recently? I might suspect carbon monoxide poisoning in the case of the parakeet, but it would have have gotten you before the turtles. Check it out, just in case (faulty heating system etc.) Any recent changes in your water treatment, i.e. addition of chloramines? Any possibility of friends or family inadvertantly doing inappropriate things to your pets? Pleas tell us what species of frog and what species of turtles died and think of any recent changes in care or housing. I know it is hard (and we greatly sympathize with you) but be CSI and give us as much data as possible.

Doug Jan 23, 2004 05:24 PM

An over heated teflon coated frying pan or even an iron can cause death in small animals.

Cindy1212 Jan 23, 2004 11:20 PM

No power outages and they are mississippi map turtles. I didnt change the temperatureas either but changed the water in the aquarium a month ago.Have small fises in it also. My last Female is doing ok too and one more thing. I changed the diet of the food because my female wouldnt eat the other diet that the males liked. Is this the Problem? Thx for your responses and your suggestions.

Ps. I found them Both underwater With puffy eyes and their shell's were covered wit red spots not dark but faint light red spots.

athos_76 Jan 24, 2004 11:00 AM

Did anyone come by and use some kind of insecticide or pesticide? Some are so poisonous to frogs and birds that they can be sprayed outside and if a window is open, it can come inside. I lost a bunch of fish the other day when I sprayed some ant killer nearby on the ground, and some splattered in the water. They literally died in a hour or so, luckily I changed the water and added a bunch of fresh water before the rest died.
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Colchicine Jan 26, 2004 08:09 AM

It does no good to speculate with such little information. Next time you have an animal die, put in the fridge until you can get it to a vet. Ask them to do a gross necropsy. If you are lucky it will be something easy to find and correctable.
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erico Jan 26, 2004 04:05 PM

Tjos os NOT a definitive diagnosis, but general swelling with hemorraghic lesions (red spots on the body or shell) often indicate bacterial sepsis. It is unlikeky that two turtles would die simultaneously , even if both were infected. Here is one possible cause (this happened to me years ago): if you have an undergravel filter, it sets up a specific bacterial flora in the gravel BUT..,. if the filter shuts down for even a brief time, you can get a rapid overgrowth of anaerobic bacteria in the accumulated waste, including the deadly Botulina bactera that can rapidly cause total parlysis and death from repiratory failure and drowning. The turtle ingest it while feeding on the bottom. Is this a possibility?? (sorry for the typos, but my format is screwing up and I can't retype).

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