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I was told by this really smart reptile dude,that jungles are just a normal leo and I was like really(i didnt think they were).Are they normal leos?
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Hey jungle is what it sounds like jumbled it means kinda random pattern not bands on back nor tail for example in this pic the ones that say jungle are jungles:

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Here's a pic of a juvenile albino jungle. It's where the body has a pattern without any bands and where the tail has broken bands. See the stripe down the middle of the tail?

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There is always going to be debate on the definition of a 'jungle' (you say to-may-to and I say to-mah-to) but I think the standard pretty much says that it must have a broken neck band (debatable by some) and at least a marbled tail, if not a striped tail... no bands. The body markings are not banded either, but can come in an array of interesting and unique aberrant designs. Unfortunatley, many jungles loose their distinctive markings into spots when they become adults, and perhaps that is why you have heard that they are normals. Both examples given in this thread are jungles.
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I thought a jungle just had to have abberant markings on the tail and the banding on the body could be completely normal.

Nope. The point of jungles are the wild patterns you get
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what would a leo with a jungle background and only disrupted tail patterns be considered...just normal? They're still able to pass on jungle genes correct? (I'm just asking cause I have a female who had at least one jungle parent (was told she's het for it). She has a slightly disrupted tail pattern and reduced spotting, but that's it as far as patterning goes.

Actually, there really isn't such thing as a jungle het. Even though the characteristics are genetic, it is considered a line-bred trait. These are traits that were created through selective breeding over several generations and are not controlled by the chromosomes, so hets cannot be created for line-bred traits. Line-bred traits are the more intense traits in the parents that carry over into the offspring, so they basically are normals that display distinct physical markings I described in the above post that can be passed on to their offspring. Another example of a line-bred trait would be hypo-tangerines.
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if it was simple recessive, that leo with one jungle parent wouldn't have a wonky tail pattern. I've heard people claim that it is both line bred and recessive, maybe there are different strains of it around? These people must be basing their ideas on something.
I've been working with aberrant patterned leos for 2 years now and have had around 80% hatch out aberrant, even from aberrantXnormal breedings. I don't know how closely related aberrant and jungle are, but they both affect pattern.
I don't know where I was going with that idea, so I'll stop typing
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