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moreila spilota mcdowelli

electricbluescat Jan 24, 2004 01:44 AM

I am aware that they are key ingredient in the beatiful jaguars
how much do normal ones cost? I heard that theres a 50 % chance that jaguars show up sometimes half normal clutches and half jags is this true?

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Mardy Jan 24, 2004 06:39 PM

The jaguars are a morph of Morelia sp. Mcdowelli and cost 3000.00-10,000.00+
As for info about them, I copied a post of Will Leary's a while ago.
Will I hope you don't mind me re posting this, but it says it all. Anybody looking at these great carpets
should read this.

The picture is of my male Jaguar.

Mardy

Below is the post of Will Learys,

Lately I have been mulling over a theory regarding the genetics of the Jaguar Carpet Python and thought it might be worth
sharing. I realize that a lot of this will probably be worked out by way of actual breeding data gathered within the next year or
so, but it's fun to speculate anyway. Current thought regarding the genetics of the Jaguar Carpet is that of a codominant nature,
but this explanation begs several important questions, such as:

1.) If the gene is truly codominant, how did the first Jaguar ever appear in the first place??? After all, it was merely the product
of breeding two "normal" Coastal Carpets together. This totally defies the behavior of a codominant gene. For instance, you
can breed normal appearing Tiger Retic siblings together all day long and you will NEVER produce any Tigers. 2.) Why do the
normal appearing Hypo Jaguar siblings develop the hyper yellow coloration of their Hypo Jaguar counterparts? Again, the
normal siblings in a codominant breeding are indeed "normal" and do not display ANY unusual traits (colors or otherwise)
because they do NOT carry the gene. If an animal is carrying a codominant gene it will be displayed and obvious, even to the
most casual observer. 3.) Codominant genes are normally consistent and don't mutate into other forms. Example: Has a Tiger
retic ever brought forth anything other than more Tigers and normal appearing siblings? (I am excluding the Tiger x Tiger =
Super Tiger since that is beyond the scope of my point at the moment). The answer is no, yet the Jaguar gene has brought forth
Hypos, Red Hypos, a Banded, a completely Patternless, and one that was born with a pattern that eventually disappeared with
age.

With that said, let me state my theory. I would propose that the Jaguar gene is "dominant" but displayed in two or more
different forms; Form "A" would be your normal appearing Jaguar siblings (not significantly different than a normal Coastal in
appearance), Form "B" would be what we know as Jaguars, and Form "C" which would be anything else - such as the
Patternless etc. This would mean that the product of a Jaguar x normal Coastal will yield 100% Jaguars - including those of the
clutch that we now consider to be "normal siblings" (whether they are from the Hypo or Classic Jaguar lines). Think about it,
...the original or "Classic" Jaguars are earth toned in color just like normal Coastals, so the normal Jaguar siblings could have
been easily overlooked as being carriers of the gene early on. Likewise, the Hypo Jaguars have *brilliant yellow color, and so
do most of the normal Hypo siblings. It's consistent with the transition.

This theory could also explain the origin of the first Jaguar. If the original mother (or father) were what we think of as a normally
patterned Jaguar sibling (Form "A", *and assumed to be a normal Coastal, it would have produced Jaguars within the first
generation - which it clearly did. If the aforementioned theory is in fact true, would that exclude the idea of a Super Jag, since
that would more likely be the bi-product of a codominant trait rather than a dominant one??? I realize this still raises more
questions (probably more than it answers!), but I thought it was an interesting spin and worth mentioning. I hope all of that
made sense(?), and your comments are welcome.

Will Leary <
Reptilicus Reptiles(.NET)

electricbluescat Jan 25, 2004 01:21 AM

Did you know in Norway they cant have reptiles? I went the jaguar breeding center before I realized the breeder was in Norway. He has some kind of special permit, his prices are not bad the shipping to the us would be high I would think.

john

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