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Temp, Calcium OD, Salad Mix questions

OrangeJuice Jan 25, 2004 01:10 PM

My dood is about 6 - 7 months old. As of late he has been eating less crickets and spending alot of time in his hide. I am not sure what the calcium/d3 supplement brand is but I have just started using flukers multi-vitamin powder. Also I have been using a 150 watt spot basking light and the cheap thermometer I had said the basking spot was 110 degrees. I have had this light for about 4 - 5 weeks (to go with a bigger cage)and I thought everything was good. At the OC fairground convention I bought a digital temperature reader (it has the nodes that you touch to the object you want to read) and I thought I would get a little more accuracy in my readings. I thought the cheap little spring temp reader would be off by 5 or 6 degrees in either direction, boy I was wrong! That basking spot was pushing 133! I got a dimmer last weekend so I could adjust the intensity of the basking area and get it down to the appropriate temp. The thing is though is that he seems less interested in his basking area now that it is the right temp. It's weird too that he pooped all the time just fine at the higher temp but now that it is down to the appropriate temp he doesnt poop without going into some warm water. Also there is the previously mentioned eating less. I am hoping it is simply a matter reading temp reader wrong. The basking area surface is what I measured and not the air. Sorry about making you read all that as well as possible grammatical and punction mistakes.

Here are the questions -
1)How much is too much calcium? I try to have calcium/d3 on every cricket I give to my BD, is that too much? I only ask because of a thread started by RaderRVT and now I am worried.
2)What is CaCO3?
3)What is a good brand of multi-vitamin?
4)What is an ideal salad mix that alot beardies like? (Pre-mixed baggie or personal recipe)
5)Is it possible for a BD to adjust to a high than normal temp and react negatively when it drops to a lower safer temp?

I dunno I'm a little worried here so any help would be great.

Replies (10)

azteclizard Jan 25, 2004 01:59 PM

1)How much is too much calcium? I try to have calcium/d3 on every cricket I give to my BD, is that
too much? I only ask because of a thread started by RaderRVT and now I am worried.
Who knows, but if you are lightly dusting you food items with you cal supp. even with daily usage you are very unlikely to have a problem.

2)What is CaCO3?
Calcium carbonate...what's in you calcium supplement.

3)What is a good brand of multi-vitamin?
I prefer the t-rex Beaded Dragon supps, because they are an all-in-one, and were formulated for daily use. The also contain protien,carbs,fats...and probiotics(beneficial bacteria that aid in digestion). With this product, you can ditch your seperate calcium and vitamin supps, and use just this product.

4)What is an ideal salad mix that alot beardies like? (Pre-mixed baggie or personal recipe)
Since I started using the t-rex products, I don't pay much mind to what I'm adding to my salads, I just pick a green chop it up and dust.

5)Is it possible for a BD to adjust to a high than normal temp and react negatively when it drops to a
lower safer temp?
Well, this one's a no brainer. If you beardie was doing better at the higher basking temp, then switch it back...who cares what is the "accepted" norm for basking temps.

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And the circling is worth it.
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BeginnersBasics Jan 25, 2004 09:28 PM

>>5)Is it possible for a BD to adjust to a high than normal temp and react negatively when it drops to a
>> lower safer temp?
>>Well, this one's a no brainer. If you beardie was doing better at the higher basking temp, then switch it back...who cares what is the "accepted" norm for basking temps.
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>>Bill DiFabio

LOL trust you to say something like that Bill

BTW... how is my .. oops YOUR girl doing? Her sister finally started eating good and is growing now. Looks like she will be an all over orange, unlike her sister and her beautiful markings

Oh and I LOVE those T rex sups I started using them almost a week ago and since the day I started I am finding myself refilling completely empty dishes during the day. It seems to have turned my dragons into bottomless pits LOL
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Lisa
Cricket free babies!
www.beginnersbasics.com

azteclizard Jan 25, 2004 09:37 PM

Lisa,
OUR girl is doing great...lol. She has started to go into a shed, so I don't want to take pics right now. She is eating very well on t-rex supplemented salads and freshly molted mealies. Gald to hear you like the supps.
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Bill DiFabio
Garden State Herpetoculture...website to follow...
Email Me
"The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance." - Maynard James Keenan

wideglide Jan 25, 2004 10:30 PM

I'm just curious here. How long have those supps been out? I was thinking about using them but am leary about any new product so I like to get lots of opinions.

Lisa, if your beardies are eating a ton more food might that be an indication of a lack of something compared to their previous diet? What are the stools like now? Are your beardies as active as with the previous diet? Is there a possibility their may be somewhat of a laxative effect in the supp. that may cause it to be used more quickly? Please forgive me for being skeptical I just have a MAJOR problem with things that are manufactured for reptiles until they have been proven.

I saw they were tested as the Sandfire Dragon Ranch but on the Sand Fire Dragon Ranch there is no mention of the supplementation and no links to Trex. I find that kind of, well, strange. What do you guys think?
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Rob Talkington

azteclizard Jan 25, 2004 10:45 PM

Short history of the supps...It started with the crested gecko diet that was developed by Allen Repashy of the SDR. Cresteds are omnivorous geckos that are very frugivorous. In the early 90's Allen had already raised several generations of crested on a mixed supplemented baby food diet. In search of a means of creating a more nutritionally balanced diet, Allen eventually formulated the Crested Gecko Formula. This is a complete food that you add water to and feed to the geckos. Allen has had his entire colony of Rhacodactylus gex(the largest in the world) on this diet for years now. From there Allen set out to create formulas for different species of reptiles using the same high quality ingredients in the CGD.

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Bill DiFabio
Garden State Herpetoculture...website to follow...
Email Me
"The poetry that comes from the squaring off between,
And the circling is worth it.
Finding beauty in the dissonance." - Maynard James Keenan

BeginnersBasics Jan 26, 2004 07:36 AM

>>Lisa, if your beardies are eating a ton more food might that be an indication of a lack of something compared to their previous diet? What are the stools like now? Are your beardies as active as with the previous diet? Is there a possibility their may be somewhat of a laxative effect in the supp. that may cause it to be used more quickly? Please forgive me for being skeptical I just have a MAJOR problem with things that are manufactured for reptiles until they have been proven.

The poops are great, huge and firm. "perfect looking" lol (Funny how we can say a poop is perfect looking eh?)I wouldn't say it has a laxative effect at all, if it did I would be cleaning up little puddles, instead of lil logs LOL
I think it is the smell that attracts the beardies and is making them eat more. It has ingredients such as Alfalfa and a bunch of other good stuff that smells really good to them. Activity level is the same as before and so is behaviour.
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Lisa
Cricket free babies!
www.beginnersbasics.com

wideglide Jan 26, 2004 07:52 AM

I've tried every online retailer Trex has listed on their site and no one carries it.
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Rob Talkington

BeginnersBasics Jan 26, 2004 07:55 AM

>>I've tried every online retailer Trex has listed on their site and no one carries it.
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>> Rob Talkington

Hey Rob,
well LLLReptile has every variety EXCEPT the BD stuff lol. But I did find it on the Petco site If you find anywhere else, drop me a line and let me know... I would rather not buy it from there, but had no other choice.
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Lisa
Cricket free babies!
www.beginnersbasics.com

BeginnersBasics Jan 26, 2004 08:00 AM

Oh and I have just written to LLLReptile to ask why they sell the cricket dust but not the other two formulas for BD's. Hopefully they will start to carry those also..... would give us an option over petco LOL
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Lisa
Cricket free babies!
www.beginnersbasics.com

wideglide Jan 26, 2004 08:55 AM

>>Oh and I have just written to LLLReptile to ask why they sell the cricket dust but not the other two formulas for BD's. Hopefully they will start to carry those also..... would give us an option over petco LOL
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>>Lisa
>>Cricket free babies!
>>www.beginnersbasics.com
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Rob Talkington

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