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Subtrate and Humidity questions

boidsntegus Jan 26, 2004 05:16 PM

I have approximately 5 inches of Jungle Earth in my tegu's enclosure. He was born in July 2003, so 5" seems plenty right now. I have 4 heat sources (see pic). I have 1 spot lamp for the basking spot, which keeps the spot at aroun 115-120 F. I also have 2 75W ceramic heaters, and a 150W red lamp. I turn off all the visible light at night, and leave the red lamp and ceramic heaters on (it is very cold in KY right now). The warm end is about 90-95F and the cool end is about 80-85F. I mist the cage heavily and even sprinkle water (not spray) all around the burrowing corner (where the plant vase is). However, my relative humidity seems to stay at around 20-30%. I check the burrow corner daily by sticking my finger to the bottom, and it seems to stay moist for about 3-4 days. When I feel about half not being moist anymore, I sprinkle some more water. Do tegus need high relative humidity or just a very moist burrow? I have the top covered in styrofoam, but this doesn't seem to help humidity at all. Any advice?

Replies (6)

boidsntegus Jan 26, 2004 05:17 PM

forgot the pic!

russ1066 Jan 27, 2004 12:58 AM

50% in the cage is optimal with a hide box with more humidity ,say around 70%in the hide box. Good luck Russ

St.Pierre Jan 29, 2004 02:30 AM

Very nice looking cage . This type of cage design works fine in areas with mild temperatures and naturally high humidity but kept indoors in houses which are air conditioned or heated (both which dry the air) they can be very hard to heat/humidify .

Most of your heat is rising (moisture too ) and going right out that screen top .I'm guessing it is roughly 4' in height by compairing the stuff you have in it . If so this is about twice the hight you will ever need even for an adult tegu of the largest species (they are not arboreal so they only really use the floor space in the cage ) By going with a more solid top (just a narrow strip for ventilation and small ventilation holes in the sides you can get good cross ventilation , reduce your heat needs and make it much easier for you to maintain your humidity .(Check out Vision's six foot cages to get an idea of how much ventilation you will need at the top - I used these Vision cages indoors and had small vents cut into the sides and they were very easy to heat and humidify )

The hide box although very nice looking is way too tall again allowing any moisture you spray in that area to just rise to the top .

The hide box doesn't need to be any taller than 2" or so more than your tegu is high on an adult tegu (Their burrows in nature are not very high ... maybe to keep predators out but one main benifit they get from less height in their burrow is higher humidity )Also if that is terra cotta it will soak up any moisture you spray in that area (pot will be damp , mulch will be dry )

You can get that same look by using the saucers made to go under those pots depending on how large your tegu is (they come in plastic too which will hold your humidity up better ) If you prefer to use clay for the look you can have the pot sealed with a water based varnish or line it with a plastic one just slightly smaller in size . (if using varnish make sure it is completly dry and there is no smell before using it in your enclosure .. this can sometimes take weeks or more depending on the type sealer used )

Increasing the size of the water bowl in a tegus cage to raise humidity is like asking for trouble . Larger bowls are harder to clean . We tend to not change them as often as we should increasing their risks of getting bacterial infections from drinking water which they themselves have contaminated . I never use anything larger than the standard size dog bowl for my largest tegus (you do not want them laying in it .. messing in it and drinking it )

It would be much safer for your animal to purchase a humidifier and run it in the room in which the cage is kept ... humidifiers also have the nice benefit of making your own skin not so dry in the winter months and making it a little easier to breath . the one drawback to using a humidifier I have found is you have to keep them very clean =)
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Stella St.Pierre
www.bluetegu.com

boidsntegus Jan 29, 2004 07:24 AM

Many thanks Ron. This all makes sense. I have already sealed the top up with styrofoam above the screen. To be honest, this was my very first building a custom cage or anything for that matter. I think maybe I did not do the greatest job on it. I originally made it for my red tail boa, which had outgrown the 10 gallon aquarium I had her in. However, the transition from the 10 gallon to such a large enclosure seemed to spook her, so I bought a 30 gallon for now. Anyway, as soon as I get some more money, I plan on building both my tegu and my boa new cages. I will keep you advice in mind when start to build. Thanks again.

beardiedragon Jan 27, 2004 12:35 PM

you might want to try a tub of water he can soak in. that much water will also raise the humidity.
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Bennett

www.beardiedragon.com

boidsntegus Jan 27, 2004 12:49 PM

There is one in the near corner. Maybe a 1/4 gallon. You can't see it because of the board in the front. I change the water every other day, but it doesn't seem to help. Thanks though!

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