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Laura_22 Jan 27, 2004 05:44 AM

Hello all,
just looking for some advice on poison arrow frogs. I've been thinking of getting some, so I've been doing some research on the frogs and vivs and such. I haven't really made any decisions yet, but I know I really want to use a fogger when I get everything set up. I'll probably just have the regular plants, orchids and bromeliads, and maybe 2 or 3 different species of frogs (as soon as I find out whats compatible) my question is, is there any reason I should NOT use a fogger? I haven't been able to find any info on this. Thanks for your time.

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Ultramouse Jan 27, 2004 05:59 AM

There are no compatabilities, dont mix and match, except maybee, maybee if your EXPIRIENCED, you could mix Dendro's and Epipities.

bsank Jan 27, 2004 09:29 AM

go to the "Search Forums" right above you and type in "Fogger." Or go to the archived forums a little above that and type in "Fogger."

Laura_22 Jan 27, 2004 09:47 AM

thanks

Ultramouse Jan 27, 2004 10:58 AM

Thanks for asking, keep doin what your doin!

With the foggers, poular consencus seems to be their no good. By that im refering to the little disc type foggers, they allways clog up and ive heard of some unfortunate incadents with them also. If you want the "rolling fog" effect, which is why your after one im sure, then i suggest a room humidifyer linked up to a piping system. Something like the Borneco Humidifyer.

If your after the ultimate, id combine that with a proper misting system, go on.... spoil em!!!!

Laura_22 Jan 27, 2004 11:36 AM

I'm going to look at some foggers later. basically i read that they burn the crap out of your frogs. so i'll see what models they have, i also found a thread talking about something you build so that the animals can't actually touch the hot parts. but thanks for the advice.

bgreen Jan 27, 2004 11:42 AM

I have used a fogger with great sucess, but don't use the little one that you place in a tank. The foggers disc really needs RO water to function properly. I use an ultrasonic humidifier instead. The produce a great effect an can be plumbed for mulitple tanks.

a 55 gallon with fogger running

Hope his helps,
Benjamin Green
www.thechocohut.com
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AlexanderStubbs Jan 27, 2004 01:48 PM

Hi,

Below is a copy of a frognet message that I wrote a while ago. This is the same design that I was selling as NW frogfest, they work well and do not loose as much fog to condensation as the pvc based systems do. I decided on the Nalgene after trying many different types of containers. I hope this helps. The total price is about $35-$50
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I thought I would share how I constructed a ultrasonic fogger. I placed the ultrasonic transducer in a glad ware container or a nalgine bottle and then drilled 3 holes, one for the electricity for the transducer, one for air in and one for air out. I then inserted aquarium airline tubing into the 2 holes and hooked one end up to a air pump (the type that fish people use to run under gravel filters). This pump pressurizes the container and because all the other ways for air to escape have been sealed by silicone the air must go out the tubing on the other end. The result of this project is a very fine, visible mist that floats out of tubing into the tank. I experimented with different tubing diameters and found that thinner was better because then the air pump can clear it when the condensation on the tube clogs. This set up is able to produce more fog and can be used on more tanks than pvc based systems. Also, the flexible tubing is much more convenient than pvc.

Alexander Stubbs

ex_action_figure Jan 27, 2004 02:53 PM

I don't see any thing wrong with foggers as long as you do it right.
the frogs CAN get hurt by them because there is a little disk that vibrates up and down really fast and it hurts if a person touches it so if the proper precautions are not taken PDFs being that they are so small can get really hurt
all you have to do it make it completely inaccessible to them
I did this by making a little box for it I used a thin PVC pipe and some mesh screen I drilled small holes in a circular line around the middle of the pipe then I covered the top with the mesh screen then when its submersed in water they cant go up underneath it so its completely frog proof plus I am going to put it in a spot thats hard for them to get to.
I have had no problems with it getting clogged-and if it does they are really easy to clean
the only other thing you have to be careful of is running too long I'm going to put mine on a timer for like a half hour when the lights first turn on and for about a half hour before the lights turn out-you don't want to make the mistake of leaving it on too long because it will soak the substrate.

-Matt

kyle1745 Jan 27, 2004 04:57 PM

Another benefit to the external cool mist foggers is that they could be connected to multiple tanks.
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