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This is my ugliest Kunishiri and when I took her out of brumation, I was suprised to still see changes in her color (she's 4 year old and still gaining color). At two she was still a bit ugly (like the babies).

She's coming out of brumation early for two reasons:

To see if they truely need 3-4 months or if they will produce viable eggs with a shorter inactive period (much like corns)

And she was the thinnest gal going into the winter.

who is probably too small to breed, but she was brumated since she went off feed. OK, I know I need a larger collection since I keep posting this colony ( :

Nice kids. I have a pair but the male is only 18" to my females 3' so it will be a while before I can try breeding. My female was barely apple green when I got her(at 2.5') and has colored nicely these last few months. the male is supposed to be from blue stock so I am excited about how he will turn out.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

That sounds great - the more blue the better. Please post pictures as they mature.

who will still be cooling for another month. (I think I may have posted this photo before)

this one took a bite out of my arm during the photo-shoot. That was the one and only time a climac ever striked at me (they usually just twirl backwards or at best, rattle their tail).

but I don't get too much time for this and since we're snowed in I had to post a 2003 Mandarin. I should have sold them "out of the egg" because I'm hooked on them now ( :

>>To see if they truely need 3-4 months or if they will produce viable eggs with a shorter inactive period (much like corns)

Tom,

I had a Kunashiri female that would produce 2 clutches of 12 eggs (every one of 2 clutches per year was exactly 12 eggs 3 years in a row!) on 5-6 weeks brumatin at 48-52 degrees.

-David

You know I like your climacophora collection, Tom, LOL. That original albino female was one of the nicest Eurasian albinos I'd ever seen. I don't believe it was a Kunisar Is. though, so it probably will strengthen that line being from a warmer climate with a longer active season. They aren't corn snakes though, heheh.

The climacophora are slow maturing, I think, like the moellendorffi and schrencki. My moellendorffi didn't stop growing until about five yrs. old and same with the schrencki. I have a pair of Russians right now that were four last summer and I could breed them this spring if I wanted to get offspring, but I'm probably going to get out of that species to make time and room. I have one female moellendorffi still that was six last summer and she looks the best ever and is her heaviest this winter. I'll post a pic of her later this winter. She's a cutie, but nasty (:

Good luck with the climacs....TC.

Yes, you are correct about the albino. She does not have exact locality data. I would presume they are from Iwakuni however there is no guarantee so obviusly I can't label them as such. And blood may have been mixed over generations. I do keep 2.2 pure kunishiri's who should be ready to breed this year (at 4 years old)

And the hets are from a female albino and Kunishiri male. So they don't have Island specific genes.

I've been trying to locate data on climacs to find out if albinos exist on other islands and if so, how many of the islands but the information is scarce?

I did notice that albinos seem to originate with Mark/Kim Bell stock. I'm sure they would have a wealth of information about this specie.

Terry, I'd love to see pictures of the moellendorffi. They are stunning animals

Cheers,

Tom
PS Dave, thanks for the brumation info. I think I'll be taking a few more of them out of the winter room this weekend ( :

Tom, my albino female came from Mark Bell. I know he had them several years before I bought one. Other people you could check with that might be able to help would be K. D. Schulz and Rex Knight. Either might be able to tell you more about the albinos and where they are from. I believe Mark's were from the big island of Honshu. You don't have an albino from Kunishiri, do you?

I'll try to get up a post on my moellendorffi later.

Cheers...TC.

Terry,

Thanks for the information. I don't have any albinos from Kunishiri.

Tom