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How are they temperament wise as compared to jungle carpet pythons? I was wanting to get a pair of Jungle Carpets or rainbow boas I am undecided lol but so far its looks like the carpets have me. I like them both.How much humidity wise.
for the rainbow boas and how big do they get?

john

I cannot comment on carpets because I have never owned one, but I do have BRB's. I bought an adult pair and neither has ever attempted to bite. They do not strike or show any defensive or aggressive behavior towards me. When their babies were born they did strike and bite, but were much easier to "tame" than I imagined. The one I kept is 7 months old now and does not attempt to bite either. She has not bitten since she was about 3 weeks old. Humidity should always be kept above 70% for adults, my babies are 85-90%. If you get the proper type setup you should not have any problems doing this. I do not mist daily or use foggers or humidifiers. It's all in the set-up if you ask me.

Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the info on rainbows. How do they look when they are fully grown? do they wash out and fade color wise? i like the jungles cuz their colors are amazing.

Since I have not owned one from birth to adult, I can only comment on what others are saying. They sre supposed to get more vibrant with each each shed until they are between 18 to 24 months old at which time they will remain the color they are.
They do get darker during the day and lighter at night, but stay basically the same color.

I also think those carpets are pretty, but don't know much about them. I can't remember for sure, but I think Jeff has some. Maybe he'll comment.

Could you post pics of your set up for both babies and adults? I would like to know what kind/size containers, types of heat, and any other special items needed to keep these snakes. Also, could you tell me the avarge adult length and time to sexualy maturity. I have experence with coulbrids, red-tail boas, ball and burmeses pythons, and sand boas. Thanks, Jake.
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I don't have pics of the babies enclosures, but there is a pic of adults a few posts down entitled "Possible Ovulation" that shows most of the adult enclosure. I will be purchasing boaphile cages with additional side strips within the next few months. I originally chose these enclosures because of limited experience and they were basically escape proof. My cats are very important to me. They are all housed in model 70 Lizard Lounges. They have ventilation holes that can be capped or not for temp/humd. control. I use under the tank heaters for the adults plus a 65 watt esu night spot directly over the water for the adults. I have cypress mulch as a substate that is 4 to 6 inches deep except under the water, which sits directly on the UTH's. The hide is 1/2 full of soaked spaghnum moss.

The babies are housed in different steralite tubs, one 17 quart and the other shoe box size on paper towels with no overhead heat source. They too have spagnum moss hides. Both those containers sit inside another 70 LL with flexwatt tape laid diagonally under then actual LL so that just the mossy hides are heated to create a temp gradient.

I am guessing my female is 6 1/4 feet long. My male is actually longer by about 1/2 foot. According to some people he might be classified as Peruvian Rainbow.

In terms of difficulty, I'd rate the carpets easier than rainbows, but not by much. I've heard a lot of talk that carpets require relatively high humidity like many boids but I've kept my hatchling in a 10 gallon (screen top) without any problems whatsoever. He's always hungry and hasn't had any shedding trouble at all. I mist about once a week but thats all I do to regulate humidity.

The BRBs do require higher humidity, but I've found that providing them with a "wet" hide, such as a glad/tupperware or small rubbermaid filled with wet sphagnum moss keeps them happy. I keep mine in rubbermaids in a shelf/rack system and so ventilation is relatively low and I also mist or spill water on the newspaper substrate once a week or so. The thing to remember is to make sure everything is clean. I change both the moss and newspaper every other week or whenever they defecate. I keep mine at room temp (mid 70s) with a heated corner (80-83 high) and have not had any food refusals or shedding problems. They seem quite content.

Temperament is the great equalizer. While both my rainbows and carpet were nippy when young, the rainbows tamed down MUCH easier. They still bite on occaison but its very rare and usually I can tell if they are getting upset before it happens. The carpet is just nuts sometimes and will strike anything that moves. I hear they grow out of it with time and age but handling hasn't seemed to calm him at all.

Van

Thanks for the advice alot of snakes are agressive when they are little then they mature out of it. one of the benifits of
rainbow boas at breeding time is they give birth to live young as opposed to an egg laying jungle carpet python. both are beautiful animals and its a tough descision for me lol. I will probably stick with the jungle cuz I have wanted one since I was a kid when I first saw one a rough drawing of a jungle carpet python in an animal encylopedia. Do you think forest floor which is made from cypress mulch would be good for a high humidity loving snake?

john

john

John,
. Jungle Carpets do well on lots of different substrates. When I was breeding them I kept adults in clean cages with newspaper substrate. Later I raised little ones for the first two years in tall tanks with natural plants and dirt and gravel substrate. I did not often clean these cages and the snakes did fine in them. I now keep my one big Jungle Carpet and my Diamond and 3/4 Diamonds on coconut husk chips. All these substrates resulted in clean shiny snakes that shed in one nice complete shed.
Jeff

>>Thanks for the advice alot of snakes are agressive when they are little then they mature out of it. one of the benifits of
>>rainbow boas at breeding time is they give birth to live young as opposed to an egg laying jungle carpet python. both are beautiful animals and its a tough descision for me lol. I will probably stick with the jungle cuz I have wanted one since I was a kid when I first saw one a rough drawing of a jungle carpet python in an animal encylopedia. Do you think forest floor which is made from cypress mulch would be good for a high humidity loving snake?
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>>john
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I keep mine on Cypress mulch and she loves it. she barely uses her hide because she just burrows during the day. Plus you can tell when the mulch needs misted and it holds humidity quite well if the enclosure is not to ventilated.
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John,
. I have kept and bred Rainbow Boas and Jungle Carpet Pythons. Both are very easy to tame. When they are first born/hatched they will bite but both species tame down with confident regular handling. Jungle Carpets are a little more inclined to strike but they often strike with their mouths closed. Jungle Carpets are more inclined to come out of their hiding spots when you come into the room. They also are more active and will move around a lot more when handled. The big advantage of Brazilian Rainbows is that they stay pretty throughout their adult lives. The best Jungle Carpets are very pretty from about 20 inches until they reach 7 feet and then they get dark colored and the pattern fades into the dark overall color a little. One other problem with Jungle Carpets is that they are sometimes difficult to tell from their subspecifics and are sometimes intentionally or accidentally misidentified when offered for sale.
Jeff

>>How are they temperament wise as compared to jungle carpet pythons? I was wanting to get a pair of Jungle Carpets or rainbow boas I am undecided lol but so far its looks like the carpets have me. I like them both.How much humidity wise.
>>for the rainbow boas and how big do they get?
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>>john

Thanks for the advice. I will be going to the daytona show.
I kind of made my mind up on settling for a nice pair of 2004
jungle carpet pythons the moreila spilota cheynei bright yellow and black ones.

john