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Carpet Breeding/hova-bator Questions

Tormato Jun 07, 2003 01:54 AM

I guess my first question should be this; can I use a "hova bator" to incubate Coastal eggs? Or is it too small? I've never seen one in the flesh. If so, what should I use for incubation? If not, I have a few questions regarding the "hova".

First, what about temps? I've seen it for sale, and read the discriptions. It says nothining about being able to control temperature (and I understand Carpet eggs need to be around 87degrees). Also, Is this a trickly unit to use? It seems very simple, but is there any defect I should be aware of? I dont really know what the word is on incubation, but I'd like to get a head start if Im going to breed my Coastal this Winter. Any other breeding related ideas would be incredibly helpful.
Thanks so much
John

Replies (3)

GaryF Jun 07, 2003 03:19 AM

From what I understand, hovas need a few mods before they can be used for python eggs. JK can probably tell you more but I think the fan has to go or the eggs will be too dry.
You may find it cheaper and better to make your own. Just get a good sized 'styrene fish transport box (aquarist shops always have a few lying around from recent shipments).
Simply put a heat cable in the bottom with a chicken wire platform over the top for the egg container to sit on. Then just add you thermostat and a thermometer with the probe in the egg mass and Bob's your uncle.

G

willstill Jun 07, 2003 11:21 AM

Hello,

I've hatched jungle eggs in basic Hovabator incubators for 10 years with excellent hatch rates. I've done it a few different ways, for example, early on I hatched large cluthes by simply filling the bottom of the Hovabator with Moist vermiculite and putting the eggs in the substrate. However, you must check daily as you approach hatch time to remove the pipping eggs before you get hatchling slime all over the interior of the incubator as the babies exit the eggs. I've never had a baby burned by the heating elements using this method.

However, after a long conversation about incubation with Mrs. Barker in '98 I altered my methods a bit. Instead of simply filling the bottom with vermiculite, I attached the top of the Hova, with the heating element, to a styro reptile shipping box with duct tape to make the incubation chamber much deeper. The bigger area was still easily, and more impotantly, evenly heated by the element. I then put a sealed plastic storage box filled with slightly damp vermiculite in the incubation chamber. Make sure the incubation medium in just slightly moist, as wet incubation substrate in a small container will kill carpet eggs. Use as much medium as the box will allow. More medium means more stable humidity levels. This set up, with the sealed incubation box for the eggs, allows the humidity to be controlled much more precisely. Also, keeping the thermostat out of direct contact with the incubating, and heat generating eggs will keep the actual incubation temps more stable. As the embyos grow, they produce heat and will give the thermostat an innaccurate reading of the temps if they are not separated by an incubation box. The thermostat will turn off quicker because of the heat produced from the eggs, and the eggs will actually be slightly cooler than they should be. For those reasons I now keep the eggs in a seperate container within the incubator.

Pre set the thermostat at 87-89 degrees F by setting a small, accurate thermometer in the bottom of the empty incubation chamber. I usually turn the thermostatup one full rotation if the thermometer states thatI need to raise the temps. Eventually, over the span of several hours I will reach or most likely, slightly exceed my desired temp. If I go too hot, I turn the thermostat down 1 half a rotation until I'm stable at 88 f.

Hovabators are excellent, simple little incubators that can be adapted to many herp egg incubating situations. I have built a large incubator for my python eggs because of the sheer size and numbers of the ball python eggs that I cook. I Simply needed more room. I still use Hovabators exclusively for hatching colubrid and spotted turtle eggs.

If you have any other questions, feel free to e-mail me.

Good luck.

Will Still
chainkingwill@juno.com

Mardy Jun 07, 2003 11:18 PM

I did buy the extra ring to make it taller(you can see it)
I use the turbo fan, if you open it a lot your eggs will dry out.
and they work best in a room the temp does not change much.

Will said it all I think, I'm going to mod. mine as he said next year.

Mardy

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