that camara is not that great it make's the pics all fuzzy and the color's don't look right. twist has alot more yellow in his scholders and down his back. but your right he's not so little anymore around 14in. and slender not like the conspicuosa. daisy is looking good but hard to tell through the salty glass. i am hoping this year will be the year for them but we'll see. lucy's pic is bad to you can't see her tank and her color is better than it look's in that pic. she is doing very well. she was a non feeder when i got her and had to coax her to eat for the first few week's. she finally started to take earthworm's and now will eat anything i offer her (if anyone who read's this has any good info on crocodile lizard's ) and jewel the female pictanata (no pic) has showen some strange coloration a light cream coffe color with light orange band's and no black at all hmm? sorry so long and thank's again eve. talk to ya chris old pic of twist