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This would be the dragon in question.

This would be his dookie.

Anyone know of a decent vet in so cal down in the irvine area?

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My unprofessional opinion, would be that it looks like your feeding the dragon alot of fruit (looks watery). Two questions...Is it runny? Does it smell? Either way it wouldn't hurt to get a fecal done.

material in there. Maybe a couple of worms? If that's the case I bet his temps aren't high enough.

What is your setup like?

Temps
Substrate
Diet
Supplements
Lighting

Provide this info and it will help a lot!!
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Rob Talkington

Food- Hasn't been touching crickets at all, just ignores them. Ive put greens out for him and he will only take a few bites. I gave him some juvie bd repcal pellets and he ate a couple of them and that is it (I even used some 100% cranberry juice in them). The only thing he goes out of his way to eat are superworms that I have had sitting around forever. I don't have any silk worms to give him and when I did I didnt give him that much.

Supplements- I had been using a Tetafauna ReptoCal Calcium/D3 supplement, but I switched to a flukers supplemnt because it was a multivitamin with calcium and D3.

Temps- His basking area is actually pretty hot. Its pretty close to 110 deg.

Substrate- Hes on shelf liner.

Lighting- I have a 150 watt basking/spot light. I use dimmer to adjust the heat appropriately. I have a UVB stip light that covers half the tank.

As far as the poop goes it wasn't stinky (which is a change). It wasn't runny but there was brown liquid that it was sitting in.

>>Food- Hasn't been touching crickets at all, just ignores them. Ive put greens out for him and he will only take a few bites. I gave him some juvie bd repcal pellets and he ate a couple of them and that is it (I even used some 100% cranberry juice in them). The only thing he goes out of his way to eat are superworms that I have had sitting around forever. I don't have any silk worms to give him and when I did I didnt give him that much.
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>>Supplements- I had been using a Tetafauna ReptoCal Calcium/D3 supplement, but I switched to a flukers supplemnt because it was a multivitamin with calcium and D3.
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>>Temps- His basking area is actually pretty hot. Its pretty close to 110 deg.
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>>Substrate- Hes on shelf liner.
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>>Lighting- I have a 150 watt basking/spot light. I use dimmer to adjust the heat appropriately. I have a UVB stip light that covers half the tank.
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>>As far as the poop goes it wasn't stinky (which is a change). It wasn't runny but there was brown liquid that it was sitting in.

Flukers should just be banned all together because of their history.

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How old is he? Maybe he's beginning to brumate.

What are you using to measure the temps?
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Rob Talkington

I totaly agree but others have gotten in trouble for saying things about that F company.

>>I totaly agree but others have gotten in trouble for saying things about that F company.
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Rob Talkington

I would imagine with KS. At the top it says "We ask that you refrain from making personal attacks against individuals or companies." I doubt a huge company would go out of their way to deal with a small message board like this.

>>I would imagine with KS. At the top it says "We ask that you refrain from making personal attacks against individuals or companies." I doubt a huge company would go out of their way to deal with a small message board like this.
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Rob Talkington

These boards are for information, and as long as we have the information to post that aids others with their animals, I think KS is very tolerant of allowing some things that are not "positive" about someone or a company. They do object to comments on ads for sale.

I have been posting information about the things that Flukers has done for the past three years on here, and they never have deleted one yet.

And who got in trouble? Good grief, in anyone would.... it would be me! Threats of lawsuits are just that... threats.... its not a civil infraction or libel if what you are saying is true...and anyone can threaten a lawsuit, heck anyone can file one.... but it goes no where if there is no grounds and the statements are fact..... heh, I know, I have an attorney proof read all my information about them.

In fact, the Comunications Decency Act of 1996 clearly spelled this out regarding the use of the internet and negative information. As for those posting the messages, this has been the finding in most cases involving attempts to sue or take acton against someone posting information or hosting sites that post public opinions or comments :

"Banco Nacional de Mexico, S.A. v. Menendez-Rodgriguez, et al-The court also held that the nature of the comments in question were matters of public concern.

The court ruled that because the matters in question were of public concern, the plaintiff, to prevail on his defamation claim, must prove both that the statements in question were false and were made with actual malice - that is with knowledge that the statements in question were false, or made with reckless disregard for the truth."

SO... how can someone get in trouble?
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www.reptilerooms.com

He is about 5-6 months old. I hate to say it but I do think that things started going down hill when I switched to flukers. That was the only multi-vitamin they were carrying at the petshop I normally go to and really don't like going to the big stores unless I have to. Guess I'm gonna go get some new multi-vitamin supplement, any suggestions?

for much less than a store
Reptile Direct

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www.reptilerooms.com

I think almost everyone here and every breeder I've talked to uses Rep-Cal. You want to get the Herptivite and the Calcium w/ D3.
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1.0.1 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

and I personally wouldn't use it. I've just used pure caclium and UVB lights and haven't had any caclium problems. The UVB is for producing the d3 but if you're not using the UVB then definitely calcium w/d3.

Also, personally, I think UVB is your best choice just because it seems to be the safest route but that is currently in hot debate right now. The safest route being if you either use mercury vapor bulbs or have the dragon minimum of 10" away from a UVB producing flourescent. Replacing either after 6 mos. of use.
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Rob Talkington

Oh I see.

There's so much conflicting information out there, I guess I'm still a little confused myself!

I've been using calcium w/ d3 and UVB all this time. The UVB bulbs I have are ReptiGlo, as it's all my nearby petstores carry. Next time I'm gonna buy ReptiSun off the internet. Knowing that ReptiGlo is a less efficient UVB source, is it ok that I've been supplimenting with d3 as well, or have I still been oversupplimenting them?

I'm gonna switch the ReptiSun and calcium w/out d3 as soon as I can.
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1.0.1 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

My personal opinion as well as that of many other keepers on this forum is that you should still give calcium with d3. I would say twice a week for adults. Going without in my honest opinion is much riskier. There are only very very few that do not give vitamin d3 to their dragon, I know you have not had a problem rob. You never know if your dragon is getting sufficient amounts of uvb to produce the required vitamin d3. Reptisuns put out 10 uw/cm/cm of uvb when properly functioning and that is at 12". Out in the wild a dragon sees upward of 200 uw/cm/cm of UVB for almost all hours of light. Going without vitamin d3 in their diet, is in my honest opinion, asking for a huge problem. Unless you have a UVB meter and know your dragon is spending sufficient time close enough to the bulb.
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Derek Affonce
DeKeAff Exotics
dekeaffexotics.com

Thank you. If too little is riskier than too much, then I guess I'll stay w/ my regular routine? Again, w/ so much conflicting opinions it's hard to ever be completely sure, especially with such a controversial subject.

I'm always still learning, and I've had no problems so far with my 2.5 year old. I want to make sure I do 100% the best I can for my new baby.
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1.0.1 bearded dragons (Ocho / Domo-kun)
0.1 kingsnake (Rio)
1.0 ferret (Playstation)
1.0 cat (Wally)
0.1 dog (Tima)

and a couple times a week even with a UVB bulb is probably better idea. BTW, I do have a UVB meter so that's probably one reason I haven't had any trouble.
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Rob Talkington

Well I can't guarantee that my dood is getting enough UVB so I figure it's better to be safe then sorry. I am going to have to take a look at mercury vapor bulb though because the combined wattage that I am using for the basking light and the UVB strip light hurts my wallet.

Are you feeding silkworms at all? What's all in his diet?