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I know this is not a cham question but I figured there would be lots of advanced herpers here that could answer this since the snake forums are having a problem with this question.
What the heck is it?
No one can tell me what this snake is.
Also care tips and handling tips would be appreciated.
Its funny I am not frightened of big veiled cham jaws.
Skink jaws, Iguana jaws, maybe even a monitor.
Yet this little baby snakehas me spooked. It is less than 14 inches long and not much bigger around than a pencil.
I don't like to feel like that about any animal especially one as pretty as that but I could use some tips.
I ended up rescuing an entire herp dept from the pet store but this is the only snake I think I will keep.
If I overcome my little problem. LOL

Looks like a hybrid between a corn and a milk.

I guess I am used to chams where Veild's and Panthers don't breed with each other. Or am I wrong maybe they can.
Don't know that I want to see the results.

If you poke around on the hybrid forum you'll see all kinds of mutts that are corn/milk crosses. I've seen a lot of cornsnake pics and I've never seen one that looks like that. Anyhow, it is pretty.

Those who know snakes hang out in the snake forums so if you can't get info on what type it is there less likely to get it in the chameleon forum.

It appears to be a mutt. House it the same as a corn, king, milk snake. Feed it appropriate size mice, water container, a hide or two, a warm spot and a cool spot.
Good Luck..

Looks like a colubrid, probably a kingsnake morph. Don't think it is a milksnake, but maybe. I'm not a colubrid expert. You might post this to a kingsnake/milksnake forum and ask. Pretty!

I was hoping to find a care sheet on that particular type of snake.

I know this is not a cham subject....but..you bought out the entire herp department? God love you, Anson. I agree that this is a corn snake, I don't know much about morphs. If it bites it does not hurt, just feels like a prickly sensation although it may draw a bit of blood. The quick motion may alarm you more than the actual bite. OK..back to chams.....

I think she was desperate to move out.
Waited too long to put the animals on sale or something happened where the landlord has it rented and wants her out.
I took in 29 herps two bunnies and a gerbil.
I will be either selling or placing most of them.
My mom took the bunnies already.
Some of the herps need fattening up and proper enviornments before I place them.
They were displayed for pretty enviornments not necesarily proper ones.
Actually she was nice enough to give them to me enclosures and all so I only made minor adjustments in temp and humidities and food.

K
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"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

I'm not even much of a snake person but thought of corn snake as well! It's head made think King, though. Did you search Google images for corn snake? Maybe you can find similar (or maybe you could spend 10 hours doign ti b/c there will be 10,000 photos! LOL!) Good luck!

lele

p.s. emailed you about ES

>>I know this is not a cham question but I figured there would be lots of advanced herpers here that could answer this since the snake forums are having a problem with this question.
>>What the heck is it?
>>No one can tell me what this snake is.
>>Also care tips and handling tips would be appreciated.
>>Its funny I am not frightened of big veiled cham jaws.
>>Skink jaws, Iguana jaws, maybe even a monitor.
>>Yet this little baby snakehas me spooked. It is less than 14 inches long and not much bigger around than a pencil.
>>I don't like to feel like that about any animal especially one as pretty as that but I could use some tips.
>>I ended up rescuing an entire herp dept from the pet store but this is the only snake I think I will keep.
>>If I overcome my little problem. LOL
>>
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0.1 veiled - Luna
0.2 green anoles Jaida & Jetta
0.1 brown anole - Jamaica
0.2 house geckos - Gaia & Tia
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Líta

I have to go home and clean cages.

Most likely what is called a "Jurassic Milk" - in other words a cornsnake X milksnake hybrid. Setup & husbandry are very simple, you can find info on any cornsnake or milksnake (or kingsnake for that matter) care sheet. Here are links to a couple of ours:

www.newenglandreptile.com/CareCorn.html
www.newenglandreptile.com/CareCalKing.html

Good luck!

Kara - NERD
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"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

looks like a king/milk cross to me too...the large blotches look like a prairie king and the rest resembles an apricot milksnake.

That thing is 99.9 likely a Jurassic Milk. Most of the kingXmilk crosses I've seen are more subtle than that, but that's just my $.02. Snakes are my main gig.

K
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"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

He said it was a cross between a California king and a honduran milk and he has seen many of them usually the yellow is not so bright.
Actually when he said this it made sense because I also have this snakes sibling and it looks exact except the yellow is a creamy beige color on that one.
Either way hybrid or not I kinda like it and don't want to breed it just try it out as my first snake.
Thanks for care sheet info to those that replied.
Hey this was kinda fun for a change.
Just a little something off topic to stir up some conversation.
Oh by the way the zookeeper works as the head of a herp dept so I will believe his answer. If he worked with the camels I wouldn't be so sure.
Actually I may decide to volunteer in his dept. Yeah, you know in my spare time?!

ROFLMAO Anson - some of you chameleon people never cease to crack me up. Have fun with your new little pet.

K
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"Remember the days of the old schoolyard?" - Cat Stevens

>>He said it was a cross between a California king and a honduran milk and he has seen many of them usually the yellow is not so bright.
>>Actually when he said this it made sense because I also have this snakes sibling and it looks exact except the yellow is a creamy beige color on that one.
>>Either way hybrid or not I kinda like it and don't want to breed it just try it out as my first snake.
>>Thanks for care sheet info to those that replied.
>>Hey this was kinda fun for a change.
>>Just a little something off topic to stir up some conversation.
>>Oh by the way the zookeeper works as the head of a herp dept so I will believe his answer. If he worked with the camels I wouldn't be so sure.
>>Actually I may decide to volunteer in his dept. Yeah, you know in my spare time?!

FYI, there are very few zoo keepers I would trust as the definative source of accurate identification information, regardless of which department they head. If you really feel an accurate ID is needed, I would be sure to continue to get opinions of other experienced snake keepers, like Kara.
Chris
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because I had not seen one like it before and was interested in it's care.
Most people said milk x king or king x corn and the care for those were similar enough that I think I am giving it the proper care if I follow care sheets for any of those snakes.
I am not looking to breed it so it doesn't have to be dead on accurate but all of the opinions of what it was seemed reasonable.
I did not mean to imply that the zookeeper had more knowledge on the subject just because of his job.
I just happen to know him and he has kept snakes for most of his life and I trust his opinion.
Heck all the opinions sound reasonable to me, I know zilch about snakes! You could tell me it's a Honduran Lactating Python and I would believe it!

Did you find this snake in florida? Looks like a scarlet snake(not scarlet king). If so, they feed primarily on Reptile eggs, but can be switched to pinkies after alot of work.

Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
www.firstchoicereptiles.com