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Georgia Eastern Kingsnake

Keith Hillson Feb 03, 2004 05:27 PM

Dodge County locality, 2003 female that will be bred to my 2003 male from Will Still (Enge Stock).
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Replies (12)

Keith Hillson Feb 03, 2004 05:35 PM

2003 GA male Eastern from Will Still (Enge Stock).

Keith
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haddachoose1 Feb 03, 2004 08:41 PM

Theri crossbands look quite a bit different. Are they from different lines? Or just variation?
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Tim

Keith Hillson Feb 03, 2004 09:13 PM

Yeah the male is a product of a Tift Co. female bred to Statenville male. Those localities I mention are the grandparents locales and are in Southern Georgia. My male is from Will Still who has a pair from the above animals. The female pictured is a Dodge Co which is more towards the middle of GA.

Keith
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shaky@best Feb 03, 2004 09:52 PM

I am confused. The snake in this picture is identified as an eastern king, Will has a picture up of his albino eastern, and Sasheena has a picture up of her blotched king (all posted today). On the Krysko site similiar snakes are listed as Florida kings, if I'm not mistaken. Trouble is, they all look like the same type of snake. Maybe some are juvies and have yet to undergo color changes? I have one of Sasheena's blotched kings that she commented about, and know it to be a blotched due to the pattern...looking nothing like it's sibling (stripes and blotches). Any insight on this matter would be appreciated.

foxturtle Feb 03, 2004 10:14 PM

Krysko sells a line of Florida Kings from Pinellas County that are actually closer to eastern kings than Florida kings.

Keith Hillson Feb 03, 2004 10:30 PM

Easterns are incredibly diverse. The animal I have pictured and I assume you refer to the orange and black male is from a Statenville male (Mine's grandfather).

Here he is

This is mines grandmother

This is a pic of Will Still's pair which are offspring to the above pictured animals and the parents to my male

1 or 2 out a clutch from Will's animals will have thick crossbars like mine but the others will look alot like the parents and the grandparents. Your Goini you have will start to go through ontogenetic change where the black will get speckles but the male I have will remain black. The whole area of South GA and north Florida contain incredibly diverse poplulations of Kings pattern wise. Check out my website and you will see what I mean.

Keith
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Sean Feb 04, 2004 12:01 PM

Do you have any ventral shots of that male you can post? Thanks.

Keith Hillson Feb 04, 2004 01:28 PM

Sean I dont but his belly is all black about 98% so. Ill try and get a belly shot though. Kevin produced a few black bellies from his GA's this year as well he said about 1-3 have this usually. The sister of this snake has a normal belly. Here is a pic of her.

Keith
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Keith Hillson Feb 04, 2004 01:33 PM

Sean

Here is a pic of one of Kevin's GA Easterns from this year.mines belly is just like this one. Seems when they ahve that thin stripe right above the ventrals they ahve black bellies. This snake is a Uncle to my male.

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willstill Feb 04, 2004 09:41 PM

I produce a couple like that every year, with the black bellies and the thin bordering lateral stripe.

Will

Keith Hillson Feb 04, 2004 10:04 PM

That male you sent me has an almost perfect stripe along is lower sides with the solid black belly but Im sure you know that since you popped him out of the egg LOL. Does Tank have a black belly ?

Keith
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willstill Feb 05, 2004 05:04 PM

Frank has a pretty unique belly. From just passed his chin, he is mostly white/yellow, with just random black marks for a bit, then his black pigment increases in blocks and continues into a pretty typical eastern belly pattern, then, from his lower 1/3 to his tail tip, he has a black undercarriage. When he warms up I'll try to get a pic, he tends to be a real d!*% when he's coolin. Ornery S.O.B.

Will

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