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Does anyone have any idea what this is on his lip? Is it bad? Can it be cured?

second picture.

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1.1.2 bearded dragons
1.1.0 ball pythons
1.1.0 veiled chameleons
0.0.1 spotted pythons
0.3.0 dogs

Could it perhaps be MBD (metabolic bone disease)? Do you supplement his food with calcium/D3? Do you have a UVB-light (fluorescent or a mercury vapor bulb)? What is the temp in his basking area?

Could it perhaps be MBD (metabolic bone disease)? I am unsure.
Do you supplement his food with calcium/D3? Yes
Do you have a UVB-light (fluorescent or a mercury vapor bulb)? Yes
What is the temp in his basking area?
He has 2 areas and both are aprox 105
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1.1.2 bearded dragons
1.1.0 ball pythons
1.1.0 veiled chameleons
0.0.1 spotted pythons
0.3.0 dogs

Hmm... And you're sure this isn't just a birth defect, but that it has showed up just lately? Perhaps it's some kind of injury from falling down from a height or something? Doesn't look like it, but you never know...

Sorry there are more questions than answers here right now...

yea to be honest I may have never noticed it before. I will watch it closely to see if it gets worse.
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1.1.2 bearded dragons
1.1.0 ball pythons
1.1.0 veiled chameleons
0.0.1 spotted pythons
0.3.0 dogs

of metabolic bone disease. This is very common in rapidly growing herps like yours. What kind of UVB are you using? What brand of calcium and D3 are you using and how often? I am not getting on you, even those with the best of husbandry can have problems with MBD.
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Stacey

MBD (Metabolic bone disease) is a catch-all phrase for a myriad of syndromes. How old are the effected BDs and in what way are the effected?

All of these syndromes are characterized by a decrease in bioavailable calcium. This can be because of several reasons: they are not fed a diet of calcium rich foods and/or are not supplemented with calcium, they are not exposed to UVB and therefore cannot synthesize vitamin D3, the animals have a negative calcium: phosphorous ratio (phosphorous binds calcium to form calcium phosphate which is not a bioavailable form of calcium), and finally the less common causes of the decreased amount of calcium is a disruption of the animal's ability to synthesize vitamin D3 (even if supplemented or exposed to UVB) due to kidney, liver,intestinal, thyroid, or parathyroid disease. (ref. Mader, et al 1996)

With that said as to your question, no beardies are not more or less susceptible to MBD. Mostly because it is primarily a dietary/husbandry related disease. It can be a heritable predisposition for offspring of individuals with organ dysfunction that is congenital. Knowing your animals and your care ( I am sure you have ruled out an bad UVB bulb, and/or competition between individuals keeping these two away from the dietary supplements you feed, etc), I would rec. bloodwork on these two individuals to try and establish why they are not utilizing their calcium. Hope this helps!
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Stacey

i had one beardie that also looked like that for a lil while i have always used supplements and repti sun 5.0 welp it eventually went away so i didnt press the subject. but i would deffinatly say it could be mbd. just sharing my speriance
yeller

How big is he??

how often/what does he eat??