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Ok, I have many MANY cuban anoles running all over my yard. Would it be ok to catch a young one and feed it for a week or so, making sure its got good foods and all, then feed it to my cham? Are cuban anoles safe to feed? (they are the little brown ones...I was told they are cuban anoles anyway)

It would be nice to have free feeder anoles running all around.
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.1 Veileds
1.0 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

Yes you can feed the cuban anole to your cham. I would suggest
that you only feed one or two a week. Make sure to have a
fecal check done at least twice a year, no matter what you
feed. I just recieved a e-mail from Ardith Abate, and she
advocates the feeding of Anoles as long as the owner has
regular fecals done. In fact she advocates the feeding of field
collected feeders period. If you go to the Chameleon Information
Network website, there is a manual that you can purchase for
$14.95 titled, "Food For Thought". Ms. Abate told me that she
has been to Madagascar six times since 1996 conducting field
research, and cham nutrition is of great interest to her. I guess
that you must be lucky enough to live in Florida, how about sending some of those anoles to Texas.

Legendcham

Where in Texas are you? Here in Houston there are Anoles running around everywhere (I could never make them food, though...too cute)

I live down I10 in Seguin, which is 32 miles east of San
Antonio. We do not have the humidity that you have in Houston.
This time of year I have my anoles brought in from Florida.

Legendcham

Sounds great. I already have fecals done on them so that wont be a change. I am going to collect a few anoles right now, hopefully my big boys will like them. HeHe if you want to pay for shipping I will collect you as many anoles as you want, they are pests to me. they keep running out the cute green anoles.
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.1 Veileds
1.0 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

I just got a load of anoles in from Florida. But I will take
you up on your offer, in a couple of months. I have a UPS account
so paying for the shipping is not a problem. Have you fed one
to you cham yet?

Legendcham

where on the CIN website this publication is? I can't seem to find anything like it on their site.
Thanks.

If you have not found it yet, I can email you the link.

Legendcham

I'd bet dollars to donuts that these are not Cuban (aka Knight's anoles). Cuban anoles get absolutely huge. You're almost certainly seeing brown (or Bahamian) anoles, Anolis sagrei.

Could be the kind you mentioned. I was told they were cubans, but I dont know much about these anoles except they are not native to florida.

And for legandcham, I have not fed any anoles yet, the ones I caught I wanted to keep a few days and gutload before feeding, but the bucket turned over and they got away. now its cold so they are all hiding, gotta waite till a warm day now.
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From Sunny Florida
Jovana's kids listed below
1.1 Veileds
1.0 Ambanja Panther
1.1 Tamatave Panther

To get an idea just how big a Cuban (Knight) anole is see
http://www.goldeniguana.org/CareSheets/cuban.knight.anole.gif

Or better yet, do a google image search for "cuban anole." They grow up to 20"!

Ewwwwww...I couldn't handle it...insects are one thing, but lizards are another. Yucko...a little too close to cannibalism to me...LOL!!!! I know, I know...some larger chams do eat smaller ones. That sad sad picture of the mean ole' Oustalets (sp?) eating the little Carpet cham is stuck in my head forever. He looked terrified...boo hoo. I hate that picture!

Kristen
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1.1 pygmy leaf
1.1 carpet
1.0 jackson
0.0.3 red eared sliders

I was watching Animal Planet a few weeks back, and there was a desert chameleon that ate some sort of pygmy viper. The snake kept trying to bite the cham, but he didn't seem bothered at all. It was great. The cham was walking around with half a snake hanging out of its mouth, one of the coolest things i've seen in a while.
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Scott Dunlap

I tried to feed an anole to my 8 month old veiled today. He grabbed it and crunched the poor things skull then spit the anole out and watched it twitch. My veiled is a sick bastard.

>>I was watching Animal Planet a few weeks back, and there was a desert chameleon that ate some sort of pygmy viper. The snake kept trying to bite the cham, but he didn't seem bothered at all. It was great. The cham was walking around with half a snake hanging out of its mouth, one of the coolest things i've seen in a while.
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>>Scott Dunlap

It was Chamaeleo namaquensis, the Namaqua Chameleon, eating what i believe was a Bitis peringueyi or Bitis schneideri. They are a really amazing chameleon. The techniques they use for thermoregulation and hunting are unreal. They are also known to eat scorpions.
Chris
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Chris Anderson
parsonii_hoehnelii@hotmail.com
Chameleon Care and Information Center (CCIC) - http://www.geocities.com/ccicenter/
Chameleons Online E-zine - http://www.chameleonnews.com/
Captive Chameleon Bloodline Tacking Database - http://www.chameleondatabase.com/

Wow Chris, you are a store house of info! Surprised me that you knew that! Discovery was on at Dinner time at my house the other night(one week after my new Cham arrived). Suddenly a snake was in the frame, and then they cut over to a Cham-I think a Panther even. Then they showed the snake approach the Cham. The Cham gaped and I realized suddenly what was going to happen. I began screaming uncontrollably and pointing at the TV while becoming paralysed to do anything. Everyone looked up, my son started screaming and when the Cham was swollowed whole, my scream turned curdling and my dogs started to howl. My husband sat back and shook his head while tears came to my eyes. What do you think I'll do when I give my Cham an Anole? By the way, I scoped out some Anoles in the Pet store today, and I just can't tell whether they'd be small enough for my 7 month old Cham. What if he rips the head off cause its too big???

I can e-mail you a picture of my 11 month old Sambava eating
a pretty large house gecko.

Legendcham

Hello Legendcham: Yes, I sure would like to see one in action(well, I don't enjoy the poor fella's suffering-but it might reassure me that they in fact could eat one and not choke or mangle one leaving parts for me to deal with ) I nearly fainted today trying to feed a superworm(the wiggling caught me off guard and I had to practice La Maz breathing to equilibriate!). I gotta get the feeding live things down cause I love Herps too much to be this squeemish! My husband slapped himself on the forehead wondering how I would deal with the feedings. I told him to think of my owning herps as a form of therapy to help me get over past childhood traumas with insects(see past Cockroach thread). He sighed in resignation saying "whatever it takes!". Thank you again-Maggie
P.S I got 9 of 10 pages on the Article you so nicely faxed me. But the referrences start on page 9 so is there another page after? I will LOVE reading it!!!!!

Maggie,
There's a book by Wolfgang Schmidt called "Yemen Chameleon" that has pictures of a large veiled chameleon eating what looks like a full grown leopard gecko and another picture of a large veiled eating (what looks like) a large mouse. Both pictures amazed me, the mouse is HUGE looking halfway in his mouth. The same book also has some other nice pictures in it, including some awesome pics of a female laying eggs and a color coded guide basically telling you what the colors mean. The book is expensive, but flip through it if you come across one. Oh yeah, it's German, so the temperatures and measurements are metric.
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Tyler Stewart
Las Vegas NV
www.BLUEBEASTREPTILE.com

I am getting ready to post the picture of the Sambava eating
the gecko on the Kingsnake photo gallery. That way everyone
can see it.

Legendcham

..... i hate feeding my chams feeder anoles. my largest bluebar abanja and sambava are now only eatting anoles they love the taste of meat. i even starve them for 4-5 days and still wont touch anything else unless its a small lizard of some kind. they eat all kinds of little lizards. anoles got too expensive for me so i was feeding them house geckos, blue bellys,and some small skinks.