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Can someone help me id this?

coldblood Feb 07, 2004 11:34 AM

Erhmmm i just adopt this snake.. can someone please help me id it?

I know the pics are blurry .. i will try to get a better pic...

is it a rat or corn?
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Replies (12)

lolaophidia Feb 07, 2004 11:40 AM

I dont' think it's a corn. What color are it's eyes? It definitely looks like an albino of some sort.
Lora

chrish Feb 07, 2004 11:44 AM

It is an albino form of one of the subspecies of the common ratsnake (Elaphe obsoleta). It is difficult to tell what subspecies from that photo as you can't see the residual pattern very clearly.
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Chris Harrison

Mark Banczak Feb 07, 2004 12:15 PM

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Mark Banczak Feb 07, 2004 07:57 PM

Here is an old picture of a juvenile amelanistic Yellow Rat. this might give you enough to compare.

hotshot Feb 07, 2004 08:05 PM

look funny. Just that the snout seemed shorter and broader than most rats.

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1.0 Corn snake
1.0 Black rat snake
1.0 Albino Black rat snake
1.0 Everglades rat snake
0.1 Yellow rat snake
1.1 California king snake
1.0 Prairie king snake
0.1 Black king snake

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

Dre Feb 08, 2004 08:56 PM

coldblood Feb 07, 2004 11:52 PM

Thanks guys!
Someone else says its likely to be an albino rat snake too..

anyone has a pic of an albino rat? or maybe know where or which dealer sells them? I will email em to enquire... :P

Mark Banczak Feb 08, 2004 08:01 AM

In case I confused the issue, Amelanistic and albino are generally used interchangably. They aren't truly synonymous but people (like me) use them that way anyway.

hotshot Feb 07, 2004 01:21 PM

Need some clearer shots of its head and body. But its head looks to have some king snake in it. I could be wrong, but the head just doesnt quite look like a ratsnake's head for some reason. Maybe an albino yellow X Albino cali king???

See if you can get some clearer shots and post them.

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1.0 Corn snake
1.0 Black rat snake
1.0 Albino Black rat snake
1.0 Everglades rat snake
0.1 Yellow rat snake
1.1 California king snake
1.0 Prairie king snake
0.1 Black king snake

Good luck and Happy Herping
Brian

DoorGunner Feb 07, 2004 01:48 PM

Pix are too blurry to ID.

ophidiophile Feb 07, 2004 03:13 PM

As a couple of others have said, it's an amel obsoleta. It's definitely not an amel beauty snake and I don't see any kingsnake in it either. It's difficult to rule out hybridization but it looks pretty identical to a couple of my amelanistic yellow ratsnakes (P. [E.] obsoleta quadrivittata).
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Elaphefan Feb 08, 2004 05:10 PM

As others have noted, you need to provide better photos, but this might help you. If you look closely at the top of the head, a cornsnake would have a faint spear point pattern that should show through a little. That would give you a clue. You could also do a scale count to check on what it might be. It could also be a cross between a corn snake (red rat snake) and a yellow rat snake, or maybe something even more exotic. Scale counts and better pictures would help.

What did the person who sold it to you say it was? If a yellow colored rat snake was what you wanted, you sure got one. It is a handsome looking snake, what ever it is.

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