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Doug T, I know you have probably been asked before. Were to fine Mussuranas! I have looked everywhere cant even fine a lone male or a breeder.

Thanks, Dann

You can try contacting some importers and get some wild caught. In fact if more folks would contact the importers, they would start importing some starter stock for us. Glades supplied mine. They may get more in if enough people ask. I'll warn you, thier last batch sold out in a couple days so they'll probably ask a lot for them.

Another option is to wait until I get babies to supply everyone who's asked. It's not my intention to be the only person breeding these guys as inbreeding will make the species a total mess and I only have 1.1.

Also, there are several Subspecies of Clelia. I only have one of them.

Mussuranas are a natural fit for most Dry' keepers. They are smart and Powerful, with similar digestive speed and even smaller swallowing capacity.

I got lucky getting mine... simple as that.

Doug T

Thanks for the info Doug. You pointed me in the right Direction. The search continues….Dann

Are the pair of Clelia you have related? Also, do you know what sub, or locale, they originated from.
I realize a great majority of exporters and importers do not maintain such information. Also, I believe the subs are divided primarily by locale and size, but please correct me if I am mistaken.
They are indeed, a very beautiful and worthwhile species to work with.
Best of luck to your future husbandry with them.

Related: Don't know.

Subspecies: The subspecies in question is uncertain. Either Clelia occipitolutea or Boiruna maculata.

Origination: Mine were cb in Argentina. I believe this ssp. ranges from Northern Argentina into Southern Brazil. Not for sure though.

There are a range of colors and sizes. Some are a reddish brown and tend to be smaller (C.rustica) while C.clelia is comparable in size and color to an Eastern Indigo.

Have you worked with them before?

Doug T

You could try Ben Siegal. he gets them in occasionally from Surinam.

Frank
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"The luxury of not getting involved departed with the last lifeboat Skipper..."

Was the pair you have imported from Argentina, or Cb there?
The reason I ask is, I am not familiar with any private husbandry facilities in Agentina, working with Clelia, though I am certain someone there is. However, I am familiar with David Fabius, of Centro Herprtologico, in Uruaguay. He produces Clelia occipitolutea and even has some piebald specimens. Though I am no color morph fan, I did find them quite interesting.

I have worked with C. plumbea from Paraguay and C. equatoriana of Panama and a few others of unknown locale.

The pair I have was captive bred in Argentina. The entire clutch was imported by Glades. The locale of the founding stock is something I just don't know.

David Fabius and I have the same subspecies.

Plumbea and Equitoriana eh? Too cool. How about a quick rundown of what they were like.

Doug