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Lumps in Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri

Nicki Feb 11, 2004 05:23 PM

When I noticed Kavi seemed to be gaining a bit of weight, I thought nothing of it. He’s always had a lump in his backbone (whether an injury or birth defect I’ve never known). The area beside the crook in his back thickened into more of a bump than just added weight could account for. In the next few days, another bump formed closer to his tail, and then a small one across from the first. By this time, I knew something was very wrong, so I made an appointment to take him to the vet.

We went to see Dr. Auger at the Blair Animal Hospital in Ottawa, ON. He asked all of the important questions about how the snake is kept and fed, and decided that husbandry wasn’t a problem.

Dr. Auger then took Kavi into the back to aspirate one of the bumps (use a needle to drain off any fluids) and to cut another open. He was looking for signs of infection or parasites. After examining the findings, the doctor could see that there was no sign of parasites or infection.

It appeared that the bumps were some kind of tumor, but Dr. Auger said they were benign. They are probably fatty or muscular tissues, which may increase or decrease in size periodically. Apparently this can be a fairly common occurrence in kingsnakes.

One of the most interesting parts of the visit was being able to listen to Kavi’s heartbeat. Dr. Auger brought out a Doppler machine, and put the end of it’s cord against Kavi’s chest. He adjusted the dials, and we could hear his heart, which beat strongly and healthily.

So, it turns out that Kavi is not in any immediate danger. The trip to the vet’s has ended up being a reassurance that I needn’t worry about him. His bumps, just like the lump in his spine, do not appear to cause him any discomfort and do not interfere with feeding, shedding, or other snake activities, although I will never breed him. The lump or bumps may be an inherited trait, and are not something I’d want to pass on. However, he is a wonderful pet and a very gentle animal, and I feel privileged to have him in my life.

Nicki

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1.1.0 Uromastyx maliensis (Mali Uromastyx) - Spike and Lizzy
0.0.1 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri (Variable (Thayer’s) Kingsnake) - Kavi
0.0.1 Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli (Pueblan Milksnake) - Callia
0.2.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis (Red-Sided Garter Snakes) - Spot and Fluffy

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Nicki Feb 11, 2004 05:24 PM



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1.1.0 Uromastyx maliensis (Mali Uromastyx) - Spike and Lizzy
0.0.1 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri (Variable (Thayer’s) Kingsnake) - Kavi
0.0.1 Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli (Pueblan Milksnake) - Callia
0.2.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis (Red-Sided Garter Snakes) - Spot and Fluffy

chaoscat Feb 11, 2004 05:51 PM

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>>1.1.0 Uromastyx maliensis (Mali Uromastyx) - Spike and Lizzy
>>0.0.1 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri (Variable (Thayer’s) Kingsnake) - Kavi
>>0.0.1 Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli (Pueblan Milksnake) - Callia
>>0.2.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis (Red-Sided Garter Snakes) - Spot and Fluffy

First off, pretty snake.

2nd, I have a grayband that was bought with a lump about 4" down from her head. Turns out hers is an enlarged aorta, also had something to do with her not growing to her full size.

I have no plans to breed her and pass on the problem-which I was told is genetic, unfortunately I do not know who bred her so I can let them know that they may potentially be breeding more snakes with these enlarged aortas.

-cat
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My collection and herp photography

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Nicki Feb 13, 2004 02:42 PM

Hi Cat,

Sorry to hear about your greyband. And thanks for the compliment to Kavi!

I was never interested in breeding Kavi, so it's always been ok with me that he had the lump. I think that less-than-flawless animals can still make fantastic pets!

Nicki

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1.1.0 Uromastyx maliensis (Mali Uromastyx) - Spike and Lizzy
0.0.1 Lampropeltis mexicana thayeri (Variable (Thayer’s) Kingsnake) - Kavi
0.0.1 Lampropeltis triangulum campbelli (Pueblan Milksnake) - Callia
0.2.0 Thamnophis sirtalis parietalis (Red-Sided Garter Snakes) - Spot and Fluffy

chaoscat Feb 13, 2004 02:50 PM

>>Hi Cat,
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>>Sorry to hear about your greyband. And thanks for the compliment to Kavi!
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>>I was never interested in breeding Kavi, so it's always been ok with me that he had the lump. I think that less-than-flawless animals can still make fantastic pets!
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>>Nicki
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Google is my first grayband, and I couldn't be more than happy with her. She's so calm, and eats everything I put in front of her nose.

-cat
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http://chaoscat.lowerground.net/herps/
My collection and herp photography

www.lowergroundreptiles.net

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