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Why are they charging me to replace a bulb.

JoeyP Feb 13, 2004 06:49 AM

So here's the story, about 2 months ago I bought two CTSMVBs, within 2 days the first one burnt out. No big deal, I wrote to them, sent it in, they sent me a new one. Well about a month after that, the second one (from the original purchase, not the replacement) stopped working (it goes on for a second, then off for a second, then on....). I emailed the company, he said that since I just received a replacement bulb, he didn't think he'd be able to replace another one (at which point he mentioned that the early burn out rate of these bulbs has been less then 1/3 or 1%). He also mentioned that the fact that it's going on and off could be due to the overheat protection switch. I wrote back and told him that the bulb is only on for a second or two at a time, I didn't think it could get hot enough to trip that switch in that amount of time, but when I get home from work I'll try it again. A couple of weeks passed, and I finally remembered to try it again. As soon as I tried it, it did the same thing. I emailed them again and told them that it was still hapening. Here's the email I got back...

It appears from your account we already replaced 1 of the 100 watt bulbs in January. Is this a second bulb that is now having problems? Our current early burnout rate is about 1/3 of 1% so this is quite a bit of very quick problems. I can take the bulb back and exchange it, can you tell me what invoice this was from. The bulbs are coded so I need to match that up with the date purchased.
Thank you.

I wrote back explaining that this is the other bulb, not the replacement and this is what I got back...

The bulb is still available for replacement under our pro-rated warranty so it
will run $12 for the replacement.

Now, I don't know when the started charging for replacements. I get the feeling the guy doesn't trust me. Anyways, I don't feel I should have to pay to get the bulb replaced, I imagine the cost of the warranty is built into the fairly steep price of the bulb. Anyways, my question is, should I take a new Capture The Sun for $12 or should I just switch to Power Suns (or at least find another place to get my CTSs). I was planning to send an email back saying something to the extent of "I'm sorry that's your decesion, unfortuently since you don't stand behind the products you sell, I won't be able to purchase anything from you anymore, nor will I be able to recommend you to fellow hobbyists any more....etc..." Actually that was what I was planning to write when I figured he was just going to say no. I think I'll just send the bulb in and email him saying "I sent the bulb in, but I don't think the 12 dollars is fair, when you receive it try it your self. If you think it's a normal burn out then throw it away and forget about it. If you think it's something different that should not have happened after a few weeks worth of use, then please send me a replacement."
Does that sound fair?

Replies (9)

JoeyP Feb 13, 2004 06:58 AM

One more thing. I just tried the bulb again and it doesn't even go on and off anymore, it just doesn't work at all, but one of the tubes (the one without a filiment going all the way through it) is all white and foggy inside, it looks different then a normal burnout, hopefully if I send it in, they will see that something went wrong with this bulb. Also, where's the cheapest place to get CTSMVBs or Powersuns?

mismodliz Feb 13, 2004 08:19 AM

I bought mine at reptiledirect.com
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Mattman Feb 13, 2004 08:21 AM

I've always had problems with the capture the sun brand especially with early burn outs, and the same things you describe. There warranty is prorated, and has always been that way. It's stated on the papers that came with the bulb how exactly there warranty works, and yes after an amount of time you do pay towards the replacement. The Powersun by zoomed come with a card in the box, you fill out the card send it in, and hold on to the original receipt. If the Powersun blows within 12 months they will replace the bulb for free, but of course you pay the shipping. If the Powersun blows in 3 months the replacement is warranted for the remaining 9 months. Out of all the MVB bulbs, and I've tried them all my best experiences has been with the Zoomed, and the Powersun bulbs. For the best prices and fair shipping prices on powersuns check out WWW.reptiledirect.com. Zoomed Powersun offer the best warrantee policy out of all the MVB makers in my opinion.
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CheriS Feb 13, 2004 11:25 AM

and we have tried, I like the Active UV heat ones best, but it takes so long to get them in the first place direct from Wild Inside, so we order them from T-Rex who are fast and replace them fast.

Its been 4 months and I am still waiting for replacment bulbs from Wild Inside

Power Suns are the easist to find at shows so we have several of those also and their replacment policy and warranty is the best out there right now that I know of.

IF you have power surges in your area, you will have problems with burn outs and also we have found that you need to have the bulbs really clean (no fingerprints on them) when you turn them on.

IF you wonder about power surges, Axe added a computer program on our computers that detects them...... we were really surprised to learn how often we were having them when the power company said there where not common..... we can meausre our burnouts related to the power surges the computer detects now.
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dsgngrl Feb 13, 2004 08:27 AM

That guy is full of it, my Capture the Suns burned out in only a few weeks, the same way you described. My Powersuns last forever. Capture the Suns are pro-rated, so they charge you for the time you used. Powersuns are fully warenteed for a year. I bought my Powersuns from bigappleherp.com
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CheriS Feb 13, 2004 11:04 AM

ZooMed has the Power Suns and T-Rex has the Active UV Heat ones
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dsgngrl Feb 13, 2004 11:34 AM

I know that, but they sell all types of bulbs on their website, not just theirs.
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JoeyP Feb 13, 2004 12:37 PM

I just bought two 100w powersuns from reptile direct. I used the new website (click a link on main page) and they ended up costing me $32 each. I'm still thinking about sending my burnt out one back and telling them I'm not going to pay the $12, but if they agree that the bulb malfunctioned and they think I deserve a new one, to send it to me, otherwise just throw it out.

BigFil Feb 13, 2004 02:27 PM

Why don't you just use the good old Reptisun 5.0 which is half the price and is more reliable. I really don't understand the whole fascination with the all mighty MVB especially since most people with anything larger than a 40g tank are using extra basking bulbs for heat and an extra flourescent for brightness. Nice thing about the tubes is you don't have to operate in a clean room for them not to burn out

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